Electric Vehicles this week

MilesAway

Bongalong
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The automotive market in China is returning to growth. In September, overall car sales increased by 8% year-over-year, while the plug-in segment went up by 66% year-over-year to 131,022.

China is the biggest market in the world and it's booming..... Meanwhile in Aus :tweed
So where are their chargers?
 

stunspore

New member
Now that SA and NSW (state lib governments - coincidence?) are planning electric car taxes - i wonder
- lib governments hate taxes - but now want to put one up that affects less than 1% of car types?
 

DonDeeHippy

Active member
Now that SA and NSW (state lib governments - coincidence?) are planning electric car taxes - i wonder
- lib governments hate taxes - but now want to put one up that affects less than 1% of car types?
Not really a new tax but updating a tax for a power source.. every liter of fuel we buy is 43c per liter fuel excise (tax) then gst on top of that.....
the average fuel is say 10km's a liter so about 4c a Kilometer....It's a tax meant to pay for roads.... To be equal with a EV then they would tax at 4c a Kilometer to loose no revenue....
It wont stay at 1% for long as Australia is far ,far behind most of the world and when we catch up they will finally replace all fossil fuels vehicles....
I personally think it should stay at zero until Ev's are about 10% of total cars then bring it in to make the new tech more attractive.....
Our fossil fueled immersed ministers though don't think the same....

Funny though, it is only NSW and SA liberal governments encouraging EV uptake with replacing government fleets and encouraging Renewable energy..... Unfortunately all QLD labor can do is give Adani huge loans and WA just want to live export sheep..... Vic is just lost.......
 

pinkeye

Wonder woman
well.. one thing I know.. is I'd love to have an electric vehicle.
But it is never likely to happen for me because I don't have the money, and never will have.

Sigh.
 

DonDeeHippy

Active member
Tasmania's and SA's Liberal Government getting it right... Just need the Dinosaurs (well dinosaur loving) Lib feds to wake up...and of course the QLD Labor state government as well...


Tasmania’s Liberal government has pledged to transition its car fleet to 100 per cent electric vehicles by 2030, just weeks after tabling legislation to lock in the island state’s nation-leading renewable energy target of 200 per cent by 2040.
“To accelerate the availability of new models, the State Government fleet will transition to electric vehicles within its existing budget, whilst calling on local government and corporate fleets to pledge similar,” van Holst Pellekaan said.

“The State Government spends approximately $80 million on vehicles and fuel each year – and our new policy will progressively shift that spend to electric cars. Instead of $15 million each year spent on imported fuel, we’ll be buying local clean power instead.”
 
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DonDeeHippy

Active member
Tesla (NASDAQ: TSLA) has surged to an all-time high trading price on Thursday morning, reaching $507.76 following a two-day surge that was fueled by news of the company’s planned inclusion in the S&P 500.
The electric automaker’s had previously reached a high of $502.49 previously, which occurred in early September after the company’s 5:1 stock split in late August 2020.
The spike in company share price has been fed by recent news of TSLA joining the S&P 500, which was announced on Tuesday evening. Tesla was set to join the S&P during its quarterly reorganizing process but was snubbed in early September when many investors expected the announcement to take place. However, the S&P is now ready to bring the electric automaker into the index. When Tesla joins the S&P, it will be one of the ten largest companies in the index.


Tesla keeps getting stronger and Musks potential worth skyrockets as most of it's in Stock of Tesla...

He is now the 3rd richest man in the world only a few billion from Bill gates to be second...
He doesn't even own a house poor bugger....all goes back into his business's and vision...
 

stunspore

New member
Now Vic government raising electric car tax... though they plan to spend the money on charging stations etc instad of consolidating revenue unlike NSW.
 

johnsmith

Moderator
Staff member
Saw my first real DS 3 out on the road yesterday. An all electric car model and company that started as a citreon but then went solo. Apparently they race in the formula E's.

I'd never heard of them but my 11 year old knew all about them. :OMG He loves his high performance cars and knows more about cars than I do. Top gear is one of his favourite shows

When i asked him how he knew about the DS he said it was in a computer game of his ...

who said computer games make kids dumb:?
 

DonDeeHippy

Active member
Saw my first real DS 3 out on the road yesterday. An all electric car model and company that started as a citreon but then went solo. Apparently they race in the formula E's.

I'd never heard of them but my 11 year old knew all about them. :OMG He loves his high performance cars and knows more about cars than I do. Top gear is one of his favourite shows

When i asked him how he knew about the DS he said it was in a computer game of his ...

who said computer games make kids dumb:?

Unfortunately DS don't make any electric cars yet, not even a hybrid but they are partnered with Virgin racing in Formula E
and plan to do electric soon....
Don't break your kids bubble though :)
 

DonDeeHippy

Active member
Now Vic government raising electric car tax... though they plan to spend the money on charging stations etc instad of consolidating revenue unlike NSW.
Yup both major political parties are against renewable energies and real change.... There are little glimmers from both but not much....
 

HBS Guy

Head Honcho
Staff member
Tasmania's and SA's Liberal Government getting it right... Just need the Dinosaurs (well dinosaur loving) Lib feds to wake up...and of course the QLD Labor state government as well...


Tasmania’s Liberal government has pledged to transition its car fleet to 100 per cent electric vehicles by 2030, just weeks after tabling legislation to lock in the island state’s nation-leading renewable energy target of 200 per cent by 2040.
“To accelerate the availability of new models, the State Government fleet will transition to electric vehicles within its existing budget, whilst calling on local government and corporate fleets to pledge similar,” van Holst Pellekaan said.

“The State Government spends approximately $80 million on vehicles and fuel each year – and our new policy will progressively shift that spend to electric cars. Instead of $15 million each year spent on imported fuel, we’ll be buying local clean power instead.”
As I have said several times, the economics now favor RE/EVs.
 

DreamRyderX

Active member
Are Electric Cars A Worthwhile Environmental Alternative?


Not as "Green" as you might have thought, huh!?
 
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HBS Guy

Head Honcho
Staff member
Lomborg is an economist paid to spread doubt. No data to back up any of his figures.

E.g. lithium is everywhere and mining it is lots cleaner than mining coal.
 

DreamRyderX

Active member
Lomborg is an economist paid to spread doubt. No data to back up any of his figures.

E.g. lithium is everywhere and mining it is lots cleaner than mining coal.
What does the electric car run on?

Electricity gotten from fossil fuel (coal & oil).

Maybe less exhaust out of the electric car, but more demand means more coal & oil needs to be burned to generate the electricity to power the auto's batteries.

Effectively, it's trading one form of exhaust for another......a smoke stack of a generating plant as opposed to an ever evolving cleaner burning petrol engine.

Also, how much do replacement automotive batteries cost? ..... They don't last forever by a long shot ..... also, if your battery goes flat, an instant charge is far from being developed.....inconvenience if down-time, & transport to a charging station.

PS....mining lithium is far more invasive to the environment that you're probably aware of, & you need many more materials than lithium to make a finished battery........
 

DonDeeHippy

Active member
Cybertruck pre-orders reach 797,626, $50.41 billion in potential revenue $TSLA


This is just incredible......Their Model 3 have sold about 4 times their pre orders and still selling strong....Cyber Truck is still over a year or two away, they are only building the factory now in Texas......
Tesla are hoping to make 500,000 vehicles this year. could take some time to fulfill those orders.....
 
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