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Re: American Words

Post by pinkeye » 20 Jan 2019, 00:23

the future is unknown

anything is possible

Re: American Words

Post by Texan » 19 Jan 2019, 23:45

pinkeye wrote:Thank you Texan.
I read a lot about the west and south in my youth, but I never understood that Texas was an independent territory.
I knew about the Alamo, but always assumed it was an action taken to bolster American defences against the Mexicans.
I never understood Texas stood alone.


I did study American History during my high school years.
It was more addressing things like the founding of the nation, and the Emancipation etc... Long time ago now.

Also read plenty of Western literature :bgrin Matt Chisholm, JT Edson, and earlier , Zane Grey.

Which is why I feel so dismayed by the really bad bind y'll find yourselves in.

Hey, maybe soon Texas will become a nation, again.

I don’t see a scenario where Texas secession would be anything but very painful and hard on all parties involved. America can’t afford to lose Texas. We make too much energy, provide too much technology, agriculture, and military manufacturing. I can dream about it, but it would take a collapse of the US to make it worth the pain and that would suck for everyone.

Re: American Words

Post by HBS Guy » 19 Jan 2019, 22:26

Quite a long time ago the (Australian) ABC broadcast a history of the Lewis and Clarke Expedition.

An educated American voice is very appealing, nice to listen to, except. . .you pronounce “tube” as “toob” etc and I find that grates, is not educated sounding.

We don’t have a huge river system like the Mississipi and its huge tributaries, even the “mighty Murray” used to become a series of isolated water holes in the dry seaso. So we have Capt. Sturt’s descent of the Murray, not as grand as the Lewis & Clarke Expedition.

Look up Burke and Wills expedition some time, that was epic and doomed.

Re: American Words

Post by pinkeye » 19 Jan 2019, 21:27

Thank you Texan.
I read a lot about the west and south in my youth, but I never understood that Texas was an independent territory.
I knew about the Alamo, but always assumed it was an action taken to bolster American defences against the Mexicans.
I never understood Texas stood alone.


I did study American History during my high school years.
It was more addressing things like the founding of the nation, and the Emancipation etc... Long time ago now.

Also read plenty of Western literature :bgrin Matt Chisholm, JT Edson, and earlier , Zane Grey.

Which is why I feel so dismayed by the really bad bind y'll find yourselves in.

Hey, maybe soon Texas will become a nation, again.

Re: American Words

Post by Texan » 19 Jan 2019, 05:03

The Alamo battles were in the war for independence of Texas from Mexico. Texas was an independent republic from 1836 to 1845, when we joined the US as a state. Mexico had only won their independence from Spain about 20 years before Texas left. Texas was given the option to divide into as many as 5 states, but decided to stay together as a single state.

Many of the people who died defending the Alamo were of Mexican decent and had Spanish surnames. Most moved to Texas from the states.

Mexico invited foreigners to come in and work the land and pay taxes. Americans were industrious and good for their economy, until the newcomers didn't like being treated like second class citizens and took their land and left. Mexico hated Texas for decades over that one. Texas independence is one of the reasons Texans are so proud of their state. The Texas capitol building is the only state capitol building taller than the US capitol building. The Texas flag is the only state flag that can be flown at the same height as the US flag. Texas may have had a better claim to be able to secede, but that deal was most likely screwed up by Texas joining the Confederacy in the Civil War.

So now you have a better understanding of why my thinking is so Texcentric.

Re: American Words

Post by pinkeye » 19 Jan 2019, 01:59

Texan wrote:
pinkeye wrote:
Aussie wrote:
Texan wrote:Texas is crawling with Utes.


You made me Google. I suspected you were making a subtle reference to the Ute Indian Tribe, but I see they are from neighbouring Colorado.

You shall now call your pick-up truck a ute.

:beer


I also. Perhaps it shows our prejudice Aussie..?

To say you were prejudiced over that would be a stretch. When Texas was an independent republic, our borders did include parts of Colorado. I am a tiny part Choctaw Indian.


I never knew Texas was an independent republic.
Was that under Mexican rule.? No how could that be.?


So.. was this after the Alamo.?

Re: American Words

Post by Lols » 18 Jan 2019, 20:07

Texan wrote:
SethBullock wrote:
Lols wrote:
SethBullock wrote:I own a 1990 Ford like this one. What do you call it? I call it a pick-up truck.

1990_ford_f-250_2_dr_xlt_lariat_extended_cab_lb-pic-5306021083466046122-1600x1200.jpeg


It's similar to the 1989 GMC we have, with the extended cab. Hubby calls it "the truck".

I call it a pain in the blurter, because he still hasn't put side steps on the vehicle for me to be able to get in and out of it without almost doing a hammy!!

We used to have a HQ Holden Kingswood Ute and it was called "the beaut ute".


"Blurter" = rear end, I assume.

"Doing a hammy" = falling?

Hamstring?

Yep, you got that in one :thumb

Re: American Words

Post by greggerypeccary » 18 Jan 2019, 09:15

pinkeye wrote:Not sure if I have commented on this before.. on this topic.

I find the use of the short phrase 'from the getgo'.. just SOOOO annoying.

Everyone seems to use it now, and I think it sounds like kiddytalk…..altho I gather it has something to do with the US Military. ??

the 'getgo'... ooooh how tough is that..? NOT at all. An unconscious sneer comes over my face whenever I hear that term here.


The one I find annoying is "real quick".

Americans use it all the time.

They put it on the end of sentences where it's completely unnecessary.

Kind of like when teenage girls put "like" on the end of every sentence.

Re: American Words

Post by Aussie » 18 Jan 2019, 09:08

SethBullock wrote:What does it mean when you say to "take a drovers dog"?

Maybe "anything else other than the choices we have"?


Pretty much. Is also used when some team is a certain winner. "A drover's dog could Captain that side and it would still win."

Hammy = hamstring.

Re: American Words

Post by Texan » 18 Jan 2019, 02:47

SethBullock wrote:
Lols wrote:
SethBullock wrote:I own a 1990 Ford like this one. What do you call it? I call it a pick-up truck.

1990_ford_f-250_2_dr_xlt_lariat_extended_cab_lb-pic-5306021083466046122-1600x1200.jpeg


It's similar to the 1989 GMC we have, with the extended cab. Hubby calls it "the truck".

I call it a pain in the blurter, because he still hasn't put side steps on the vehicle for me to be able to get in and out of it without almost doing a hammy!!

We used to have a HQ Holden Kingswood Ute and it was called "the beaut ute".


"Blurter" = rear end, I assume.

"Doing a hammy" = falling?

Hamstring?

Re: American Words

Post by SethBullock » 18 Jan 2019, 01:50

What does it mean when you say to "take a drovers dog"?

Maybe "anything else other than the choices we have"?

Re: American Words

Post by Texan » 18 Jan 2019, 01:17

pinkeye wrote:
Aussie wrote:
Texan wrote:Texas is crawling with Utes.


You made me Google. I suspected you were making a subtle reference to the Ute Indian Tribe, but I see they are from neighbouring Colorado.

You shall now call your pick-up truck a ute.

:beer


I also. Perhaps it shows our prejudice Aussie..?

To say you were prejudiced over that would be a stretch. When Texas was an independent republic, our borders did include parts of Colorado. I am a tiny part Choctaw Indian.

Re: American Words

Post by SethBullock » 18 Jan 2019, 01:12

Lols wrote:
SethBullock wrote:I own a 1990 Ford like this one. What do you call it? I call it a pick-up truck.

1990_ford_f-250_2_dr_xlt_lariat_extended_cab_lb-pic-5306021083466046122-1600x1200.jpeg


It's similar to the 1989 GMC we have, with the extended cab. Hubby calls it "the truck".

I call it a pain in the blurter, because he still hasn't put side steps on the vehicle for me to be able to get in and out of it without almost doing a hammy!!

We used to have a HQ Holden Kingswood Ute and it was called "the beaut ute".


"Blurter" = rear end, I assume.

"Doing a hammy" = falling?

Re: American Words

Post by Lols » 18 Jan 2019, 00:43

SethBullock wrote:I own a 1990 Ford like this one. What do you call it? I call it a pick-up truck.

1990_ford_f-250_2_dr_xlt_lariat_extended_cab_lb-pic-5306021083466046122-1600x1200.jpeg


It's similar to the 1989 GMC we have, with the extended cab. Hubby calls it "the truck".

I call it a pain in the blurter, because he still hasn't put side steps on the vehicle for me to be able to get in and out of it without almost doing a hammy!!

We used to have a HQ Holden Kingswood Ute and it was called "the beaut ute".

Re: American Words

Post by pinkeye » 17 Jan 2019, 23:58

Not sure if I have commented on this before.. on this topic.

I find the use of the short phrase 'from the getgo'.. just SOOOO annoying.

Everyone seems to use it now, and I think it sounds like kiddytalk…..altho I gather it has something to do with the US Military. ??

the 'getgo'... ooooh how tough is that..? NOT at all. An unconscious sneer comes over my face whenever I hear that term here.

Re: American Words

Post by pinkeye » 17 Jan 2019, 23:54

Aussie wrote:
Texan wrote:Texas is crawling with Utes.


You made me Google. I suspected you were making a subtle reference to the Ute Indian Tribe, but I see they are from neighbouring Colorado.

You shall now call your pick-up truck a ute.

:beer


I also. Perhaps it shows our prejudice Aussie..?

Re: American Words

Post by Texan » 17 Jan 2019, 22:58

Aussie wrote:
Texan wrote:Texas is crawling with Utes.


You made me Google. I suspected you were making a subtle reference to the Ute Indian Tribe, but I see they are from neighbouring Colorado.

You shall now call your pick-up truck a ute.

:beer

I don’t know. Your utes look like they are built on a mono frame car chassis. Our pickups are built with body on frame with heavier duty framed.

This is identical to what I own. It has a 5.0 liter V8 and can haul 900kg and tow 4500 kg. There are bigger and smaller, but mine is typical.
https://www.kbb.com/car-news/all-the-la ... 000009643/

Re: American Words

Post by Aussie » 17 Jan 2019, 15:51

Texan wrote:Texas is crawling with Utes.


You made me Google. I suspected you were making a subtle reference to the Ute Indian Tribe, but I see they are from neighbouring Colorado.

You shall now call your pick-up truck a ute.

:beer

Re: American Words

Post by greggerypeccary » 17 Jan 2019, 14:23

Texan wrote:Texas is crawling with Utes.


So is Perth (WA).

We have what are called FIFO workers here: Fly In Fly Out.

They fly into the mine sites up north, to work, and then fly out again after they've done a few weeks.

They earn plenty of money when they're up north, and when they fly back home for their break they like to buy these:

Image

Plenty of lime green utes driving around the Perth CBD.

Re: American Words

Post by SethBullock » 17 Jan 2019, 14:06

Texan wrote:Texas is crawling with Utes.


So is Oregon. They're everywhere, all over.

Of course, we also have a lot of those Prius's too ... :roll

They have a special affinity for driving under the speed limit in the fast lane. :grn

Re: American Words

Post by SethBullock » 17 Jan 2019, 14:04

greggerypeccary wrote:
SethBullock wrote:I own a 1990 Ford like this one. What do you call it? I call it a pick-up truck.

1990_ford_f-250_2_dr_xlt_lariat_extended_cab_lb-pic-5306021083466046122-1600x1200.jpeg


On Australia Day, in a couple of weeks time, all the bogans (rednecks in the US) put flags all over their utes.

Image


Ute is short for utility vehicle.


Good on them!

Re: American Words

Post by Texan » 17 Jan 2019, 13:55

Texas is crawling with Utes.

Re: American Words

Post by greggerypeccary » 17 Jan 2019, 13:51

SethBullock wrote:I own a 1990 Ford like this one. What do you call it? I call it a pick-up truck.

1990_ford_f-250_2_dr_xlt_lariat_extended_cab_lb-pic-5306021083466046122-1600x1200.jpeg


On Australia Day, in a couple of weeks time, all the bogans (rednecks in the US) put flags all over their utes.

Image


Ute is short for utility vehicle.

Re: American Words

Post by greggerypeccary » 17 Jan 2019, 13:46

SethBullock wrote:I own a 1990 Ford like this one. What do you call it? I call it a pick-up truck.

1990_ford_f-250_2_dr_xlt_lariat_extended_cab_lb-pic-5306021083466046122-1600x1200.jpeg


That's what we call a ute.

Re: American Words

Post by Tally » 17 Jan 2019, 13:45

greggerypeccary wrote:
Tally wrote:Not a word but a turn of phrase.

I've heard Americans say I drive truck, I drive bus instead of I'm a truck/bus driver.
I think I've also heard examples such as lay carpet, paint house and other trades. Is it a working class thing?


Hmmm, I've heard poms talk like that, but not Americans :?


Actually if you say it in your head with both an American and English accent, it sounds about right

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