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Re: Gardening

Posted: 07 Apr 2019, 15:57
by Sprintcyclist
johnsmith wrote:
HBS Guy wrote:Just subscribed to a newsletter for another fruit tree nursery. More sources the better I like it!
great, but I don't really have room for fruit trees just yet (have to get rid of some palms first) ... lets just stick to my vege's for now

:jump :jump :jump
Feng Shui speaking, palm trees are poison arrows

Re: Gardening

Posted: 07 Apr 2019, 20:20
by pinkeye
johnsmith wrote:
pinkeye wrote:Good to hear you made your move away from the Beach JS... NOT a good environment there for young family. .

I can pretty well imagine where you are, roughly... really roughly...

KILL those PALMS.

If you have any decent sized land, look to assistance from your local Council under the Land For Wildlife scheme, which is very good and very focussed on achieving a return of local flora and fauna, even on badly degraded land.

But it is the individual owner that needs to be interested. If you have less than a hectare or so, you can still be assisted to plant local plants, with the aim of removing things like PALMS.. and putting in NATIVES , and improve the chances of local flora and fauna. Help to remove invasive species.
Costs you nothing but the effort... you get supplied with plants advice etc.. all you need to do is get in to it. :thumb
i am exactly 3 minutes drive from my previous address. So still fairly close to the beach, although I wouldn't try walking it.

Don't have an overly large block. Only about 800m2. Most of that is taken up by the house, pool and my two courtyards. Any tree's I plant will be fruit bearing. My theory is that if i have to look after something, i may as well get something back from it.

Besides, the birds love the fruit :grn



oh well you're only young.

There is still time..

Re: Gardening

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 18:13
by HBS Guy
Got an email tonight: a tree nursery in Vic can send trees to Tassie! Heritage Fruit Trees: http://www.heritagefruittrees.com.au

Good stuff! More choices and competition should see lower prices too.

Re: Gardening

Posted: 12 Apr 2019, 19:12
by Monk
On the ferry under way to Tassie

Re: Gardening

Posted: 13 Apr 2019, 07:50
by johnsmith
have a good trip monk!

Re: Gardening

Posted: 13 Apr 2019, 14:32
by HBS Guy
Am here. Visited my block. Fucking amazing—the padlock on my little shed was still in place! Opened it—nothing in the shed had been touched! Would never happen in Adelaide!

Re: Gardening

Posted: 13 Apr 2019, 21:18
by pinkeye
Living in the Country ( so to speak) has many rewards.

Re: Gardening

Posted: 14 Apr 2019, 07:33
by HBS Guy
I need to buy some shelving, getting to be too much stuff to just put on the floor. Also going to buy some oyster mushroom compost—nice and acidic. Rake up the pine chips, dump them where the long row of berries will go. Have found a plant nursery selling suitable callistemons, bottle brush shrubs, to plant as a bit of a hedge in front of the fruit trees. The more you plant, the more you interplant the more robust your garden is.

Re: Gardening

Posted: 14 Apr 2019, 13:56
by Sprintcyclist
pinkeye wrote:Living in the Country ( so to speak) has many rewards.
wonder if we should look to a country place to retire in ?

Re: Gardening

Posted: 14 Apr 2019, 15:23
by HBS Guy
I would if I were you, Sprint! Whole new lifestyle to get used to—that keeps your brain going. It is quieter, much less traffic, hardly any sirens, people are friendlier etc etc.

There were two triggers to get me to moving to Tassie (actually three: real estate is dirt cheap in country towns—no jobs for lots of people:)

1. Adelaide is just getting too fucking hot!

2. Traffic, early Sunday morning traffic was like peak hour used to be.

You will find some things more expensive: a tradie or supplies need to come from the nearest big town so big $$$ travelling.

Re: Gardening

Posted: 14 Apr 2019, 16:20
by johnsmith
Sprintcyclist wrote:
pinkeye wrote:Living in the Country ( so to speak) has many rewards.
wonder if we should look to a country place to retire in ?
the pro's are that it's usually safer, certainly quieter, and if you move into a small town, you are more a part of the community

the con, and it's a biggie for older folks, is that medical resources are fewer and further between ... at a point in your life when you'll be needing them more and more


you also need to look at the type of property you are buying ... no good getting acreage that you won't be able to maintain in a few years time.


Also, another issue that has crept up in recent years is that in some towns ICE is an epidemic. Do your homework on the town thoroughly before you buy.

Re: Gardening

Posted: 14 Apr 2019, 17:08
by Sprintcyclist
johnsmith wrote:
Sprintcyclist wrote:
pinkeye wrote:Living in the Country ( so to speak) has many rewards.
wonder if we should look to a country place to retire in ?
the pro's are that it's usually safer, certainly quieter, and if you move into a small town, you are more a part of the community

the con, and it's a biggie for older folks, is that medical resources are fewer and further between ... at a point in your life when you'll be needing them more and more


you also need to look at the type of property you are buying ... no good getting acreage that you won't be able to maintain in a few years time.


Also, another issue that has crept up in recent years is that in some towns ICE is an epidemic. Do your homework on the town thoroughly before you buy.
thanks, they are good points

Re: Gardening

Posted: 14 Apr 2019, 17:19
by Aussie
Sprintcyclist wrote:
pinkeye wrote:Living in the Country ( so to speak) has many rewards.
wonder if we should look to a country place to retire in ?
First class medical facilities in Bundaberg (in your State) with a dedicated 24 hour medivac helicopter service to a major hospital if required. Regular air services to Brisbane. Better temps than Brisbane, (where I believe you are,) easy to get around and very moderate prices. Every service and retail outlook which exists in Brisbane. Churches everywhere. Unemployment is high and there is a drug issue which is no greater than where you are. Have a Google on those prices and Homes currently on the market.

I'd love to go back, but business and Family mean we are 'stuck' here in this Paradise.

Re: Gardening

Posted: 14 Apr 2019, 17:51
by johnsmith
Aussie wrote: Better temps than Brisbane, (where I believe you are,)
I thought sprinty was in my neck of the woods ..... or maybe I am thinking of aquascoot

Re: Gardening

Posted: 14 Apr 2019, 18:43
by Sprintcyclist
johnsmith wrote:
Aussie wrote: Better temps than Brisbane, (where I believe you are,)
I thought sprinty was in my neck of the woods ..... or maybe I am thinking of aquascoot
South of Brisbane.
Surburbia, I quite like it here so no big rush to move

Re: Gardening

Posted: 14 Apr 2019, 19:03
by johnsmith
Sprintcyclist wrote:
johnsmith wrote:
Aussie wrote: Better temps than Brisbane, (where I believe you are,)
I thought sprinty was in my neck of the woods ..... or maybe I am thinking of aquascoot
South of Brisbane.
Surburbia, I quite like it here so no big rush to move

cool. Some nice spots south of brisse.
My work is in Ormeau / pimpama which is more than halfway to brissie anyway. Some lovely spots

Re: Gardening

Posted: 15 Apr 2019, 09:00
by HBS Guy
Wow, seems a lot of Boomers are moving to Tassie. Nice! Now if only the local councils and Taswater would stop ripping rate payers off blind it might actually happen.

The joys of country life: wallabies (think little ’roos) possums and rabbits all after your produce!

Re: Gardening

Posted: 15 Apr 2019, 13:29
by greggerypeccary
johnsmith wrote:
Aussie wrote: Better temps than Brisbane, (where I believe you are,)
I thought sprinty was in my neck of the woods ..... or maybe I am thinking of aquascoot
I'm pretty sure aquascoot lives on another planet.

Re: Gardening

Posted: 16 Apr 2019, 00:02
by pinkeye
Nothing beats the sound of the first early morning birds… the cheeps and burbles start just before sun up.
Then ..
The Kookas and the Crows . Butcherbirds and Magpies....

THEN I hear some distant traffic at peak commute time, then all lapses back into somnolent sunshine, light wind through leaves, and birds arguing … snooze is bliss. :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin :bgrin


Which, incidentally, is one of the reasons I post so late/early. I see the dawn, and then , I'll go to sleep. :thumb

Re: Gardening

Posted: 16 Apr 2019, 00:13
by pinkeye
HBS Guy wrote:I need to buy some shelving, getting to be too much stuff to just put on the floor. Also going to buy some oyster mushroom compost—nice and acidic. Rake up the pine chips, dump them where the long row of berries will go. Have found a plant nursery selling suitable callistemons, bottle brush shrubs, to plant as a bit of a hedge in front of the fruit trees. The more you plant, the more you interplant the more robust your garden is.

Well it is always good to plant local natives. They will thrive. LOCAL natives... try to plant what are called Pioneer species, if you are starting on a bald patch of denuded land. They draw nitrogen to the /surface/service and provide a tough habitat... takes time. You can plant all the exotics you like, but you'll find they don't all thrive.

Better to establish a living ecosystem before too many exotics are introduced. I Have NO citrus growing, and no other exotics, except a barren Custard Apple Tree.. ( no nearby alt-sex plant) but I get the odd Pineapple and Deliciosa and Chilli ( lots of chili) and Curry leaf.. but you see , as no doubt u do, it relates to local conditions.. local plants are the go..

Re: Gardening

Posted: 16 Apr 2019, 01:20
by pinkeye
HBS Guy wrote:I need to buy some shelving, getting to be too much stuff to just put on the floor. Also going to buy some oyster mushroom compost—nice and acidic. Rake up the pine chips, dump them where the long row of berries will go. Have found a plant nursery selling suitable callistemons, bottle brush shrubs, to plant as a bit of a hedge in front of the fruit trees. The more you plant, the more you interplant the more robust your garden is.
You can make shelving out of all sorts of things... don't need to buy it at a mega-store.

Re: Gardening

Posted: 16 Apr 2019, 07:11
by HBS Guy
Limited time here.

Re: Gardening

Posted: 16 Apr 2019, 22:36
by HBS Guy
Found not just the skin but the skeleton of a little snake in my garden. Will take a picture when I find it again.

I also startled a rabbit, christ those little fuckers can run!

Re: Gardening

Posted: 17 Apr 2019, 16:15
by HBS Guy
Hard work, this gardening!

Where I worked last year the soil is much improved. The pine chicps have chipped (sorry) the pH back to 8 from over 8. With the oyster mushroom compost and iron sulphate should bring it closer to ideal: just under 7. I hope. Maybe next year a sparse application of superphosphate and potassium sulphate will do the job but will be ongoing battle for a while, soils like a certain pH but I will keep plugging away. I see critters in the soil, a slater or two and an earthworm so all good. 15 bales of pea straw delivered, hope to get some alfalfa/lucerne hay as well.

Tomorrow rotary hoeing and placing of posts so I can espalier the perry pear trees once they arrive in spring.

2 rows of 4 cider apple trees—semi dwarf trees

3 rows of perry pears incl beurre bosc and its pollinators.

One row close planted cherry/peach/cooking/eating/cider apples.

I met my neighbors to the south of my block—they own 1.2Ha altogether incl the block next to mine and land behind my and other blocks—he is going to build a house and the rest of the 1.2Ha will be garden! How good is that! Some nice peace and quiet, flowers everywhere! Nice people.

Re: Gardening

Posted: 18 Apr 2019, 15:24
by HBS Guy
4 x 1m wide strips rotary hoed. Poles supplied, need a posthole digger, all rented by people building pergolas etc over easter.

The rotary hoeing took a few hours: $140, very resonable. Bluey sort of supervised the young bloke actually operating the machine tho helped get the pine chips out of the way. I gave the young bloke $20 “to get a beer” and well deserved.

I bought (well, I bought 100, way too many but there you go, cheap enough anyway) flags on still wire. Pressed it carefully into the ground until it started to bend:

Site 1: near the front, nothing done: 73mm: pH: 8

Site 2: work done, pine chips added rather later than Site 3: 172mm pH sliver under 8

Site 3: one of the spots I dug in gypsum and sheepshit etc and got covered by pine chips back in June last year: 191mm. pH 7. A full pH point less because of the pine chips! Wonderful!

Some of the extra penetration (ooh err missus) could be because the mulch, the pine chips, kept the soil moister?

Loving the drop in pH! Now will hit it with oyster mushroom compost.