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Re: The latest shame from Nauru

Postby hatty » 07 Dec 2018, 10:30

Sprintcyclist wrote:
hatty wrote:
Sprintcyclist wrote:If we don't let them into Australia by coming here via people smugglers they won't go to people smugglers to get here.

Many 1000''s of refugees drowned because they were trying to get to australia via people smugglers.
That issue was one of the worst failures I have seen.
It happened in europe also


so you admit then that these extremely vulnerable men, women and children are being made an example of....... this is about these people...... not hypotheticals

if you are comfortable with that then so be it........ i'm not.

we'll just have to agree to disagree


No, I don't agree they are extremely vulnerable men, women and children.

I remember when labors idea was to let them all loose into our society because the centres they build at our expense were over flowing.
Now those centres are empty. That is a success
I remember 1000's of refugees drowning, now none are, that is a success.

Do you agree with those observations?


i disagree that they are not vulnerable.

why else would Morrison try to gag all the health professionals with threats of prison time?......

they have been used as political pawns by every government since Howard in 2001.......

https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-boa ... 1j2o2.html

It's fucked!

This is about the poor souls in prison now!...... having done nothing illegal...... not some mythical enemy to win political sway (see article, trump and every other authoritarian leader in history)

Turnip face Dutton saying we must "guard against compassion" what the actual fuck? :huh

you might have ice water in your veins but i do not!

i'm done with this particular encounter
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Re: The latest shame from Nauru

Postby Sprintcyclist » 07 Dec 2018, 10:59

Since 2001 (I'll take your word for that) some refugees have been acting in a manner that endangers themselves and others, supporting criminals and totally contravening our sovereignty.
People that do that are not welcome in Australia.
People that claim all sorts of illnesses, threaten violence to get whatever they want or say "yes, 100% of us have been abused' should not be allowed in Australia.

Hatty - thanks for a mature discussion about a topic we disagree on.
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Re: The latest shame from Nauru

Postby hatty » 07 Dec 2018, 11:07

I suspect we'll disagree on other things in the future :thumb ....... until next time

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Re: The latest shame from Nauru

Postby johnsmith » 07 Dec 2018, 19:36

Sprintcyclist wrote:
johnsmith wrote:
Sprintcyclist wrote:Perhaps it takes 5 years because the illegals have thrown away their identification when they were rescued by us.


bullshit. Everyone on Nauru and Manus has already been found to be a refugee. Their identity has long beenbeen confirmed, as has their status.
Only fuckwits like you like to see kids locked up and tortured because their not your race or religion. Shame on you, you disgrace to the human race


What other reason do you think exists ?


that you're a moron? Did I miss that one?
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Re: The latest shame from Nauru

Postby johnsmith » 07 Dec 2018, 19:39

Sprintcyclist wrote:Many 1000''s of refugees drowned because they were trying to get to australia via people smugglers.
That issue was one of the worst failures I have seen.
It happened in europe also


so now instead of drowning in our waters, they try for elsewhere and drown there, like Europe for example? Or they stay in the war zones and wait until a bomb falls on their head? Ohh wait, you don't count those do you, it doesn't suit your argument


Stop pretending you give a shit about the asylum seekers, you've already shown your hand there.
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Re: The latest shame from Nauru

Postby johnsmith » 07 Dec 2018, 19:43

Sprintcyclist wrote:No, I don't agree they are extremely vulnerable men, women and children.


of course not, you much prefer your head up your arse!

Sprintcyclist wrote:I remember when labors idea was to let them all loose into our society because the centres they build at our expense were over flowing.
Now those centres are empty. That is a success
I remember 1000's of refugees drowning, now none are, that is a success.

Do you agree with those observations?


so now you have 60 000 illegals A YEAR hiding and living throughout the country. A much better result ehh? :roll


Sprintcyclist wrote:Since 2001 (I'll take your word for that) some refugees have been acting in a manner that endangers themselves and others, supporting criminals and totally contravening our sovereignty.
People that do that are not welcome in Australia.



so has a much larger percentage of family and skilled visa entrants that have come into the country .... do we ban them to? or does your hypocrisy only apply to asylum seekers?
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Re: The latest shame from Nauru

Postby Tally » 07 Dec 2018, 21:26

Everything else aside, get the bloody kids out and get them out now.
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Re: The latest shame from Nauru

Postby DonDeeHippy » 08 Dec 2018, 10:37

This is a long email, but I've just returned from Parliament House, and I wanted to let you know exactly what happened.

Yesterday, Scott Morrison's Government played games in the Senate and then fled the House of Representatives – leaving their entire policy agenda behind – to avoid a bill that would compel Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton to transfer children, their families and anyone else in need of medical assessment and treatment from Manus and Nauru to care in Australia.

But the Morrison Government's cowardice didn't stop Senators from an extraordinary coalition of conscience. They voted hour after hour after hour, up against a filibuster from the Government, Pauline Hanson and Cory Bernardi on the final day of sitting for 2018, to push the #KidsOffNauru legislation through the Senate.

But the final Senate vote came one hour too late. By the time it had passed, the Morrison Government had already shut down the House of Representatives and literally fled the building.

It was a bittersweet moment. But this legislation will still be waiting when the House of Representatives returns in February – and it will pass. When it does, within 48 hours of it becoming law, we will see the kids and their families off Nauru, and emergency flights of critically ill men and women from offshore detention touch down in Australia.

But Don, to come within one hour of passing a bill that would have brought children and critically ill people from Manus and Nauru to Australia BY SUNDAY was absolutely heartbreaking.

Newly elected Dr Kerryn Phelps, who drove this Bill through in the first fortnight of her Federal career, slumped back in her chair as the Bill passed the Senate but the lights were already off in the House.

These same scenes repeated themselves as Senators left the chamber. Senator Tim Storer who tabled the Bill, having worked night after night to finely balance competing considerations across the political spectrum, had his head buried in his hands.

But the thing I most wanted to tell you, Don, was that in that same moment that our politics most failed us, the incredible potential of politics and our democracy was also at its most evident.


The extraordinary events of yesterday happened because politicians of principle genuinely listened to the people-powered movement in Australia, and the voices of those still detained. Politicians who knew that the treatment of those on Manus and Nauru isn't about left and right – it's about right and wrong.

I watched the Australian Greens Senators huddle anxiously together outside the Chamber door (with Adam Bandt actually running across from the House of Representatives), trying to find a way through the Government's filibuster. They knew they were just inches away from saving the lives of those in offshore detention, whose rights they had defended for decades.

Greens Immigration spokesperson Senator Nick McKim stood shoulder to shoulder with Senator Storer to table the bill, working tirelessly with people from across the political spectrum hoping for a win especially for the oft-forgotten adults. As, McKim exited the Senate when it was all done, close to tears, all he could say was:"How can I tell those people in the camps they have to wait another three months for treatment, when they needed it yesterday."

I watched the women of the House of Representatives crossbench, Rebekha Sharkie, former Liberal MP Julia Banks, and Cathy McGowan embrace Dr Phelps and her Bill. They also stood in their own right to argue in different ways for a sensible solution to the medical crisis that has enveloped the children, and the adults in offshore detention.

I watched Senator Derryn Hinch forced to battle Twitter trolls from his Senate seat, remaining emphatic that he stood with all kids, including those detained offshore – even as the Morrison Government cynically dangled legislation he had long fought for to entice him over to their side. He sat alongside Centre Alliance Senators Griff and Patrick, both weary and indignant at the antics of the Government playing with Parliamentary procedure to avoid following the clear desire of the Australian public to get kids off Nauru, and follow doctors' orders with the women and men.

There stood Andrew Wilkie and his staff, biting their nails as they watched the Senate filibuster and then the House of Representatives clock. Wilkie had put the initial #KidsOffNauru Bill forward in the House months ago, but had graciously worked with everyone else to help draft a new Bill and find a new pathway through the Senate to ensure it become law. He stood repeatedly in the House this week, as he has done for years and years, arguing for justice for the people detained in our name.

And then, after so long of being ripped apart on this issue, I watched the Australian Labor Party. Penny Wong, on her feet for hours at the table in the Senate, stabbing her finger in righteous fury at the Government's dirty tricks. Their Senators determined to hold, in the face of fear-mongering Government speeches about boats and borders, to the fundamental tenet that sick people should never be denied treatment. When Opposition Leader Bill Shorten stood before snapping cameras and said kids should be off Nauru late last night, he stood for the work of a united Labor caucus led by Shadow Immigration Minister Shayne Neumann, which went back and forth for months between lawyers, doctors and internal champions – intent on finding the way through, even from Opposition, to finally address the medical crisis offshore.

What I saw yesterday was a coalition of conscience emerge. And it renewed my faith in the promise of our politics.
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Re: The latest shame from Nauru

Postby DonDeeHippy » 08 Dec 2018, 10:39

I watched this coalition of conscience come together and come within one hour of delivering a historic defeat to a cruel Government which has let 12 people die on their watch in offshore detention.

I saw politicians put aside party and ego. I saw them work together the way we always want them to. I saw them sneaking BBQ Shapes just off the Senate floor, because the filibuster meant they hadn't eaten since 7am. I saw their faces crumple as they realised children would be spending another 3 months in detention, because the Government had thwarted them on timing. I saw them shake off the despair and go out with a grim smile for the media. And I saw them promise, on national television, that they would be waiting, when the Parliament returns on the 13th of February, to finally deliver care and safety to those offshore, and pass this Bill before the House so it becomes law.

That's why I wanted to email you right now even though the words aren't polished and I'm still in my pyjamas. Because I want you to know that yesterday showed us that this fight is still worth it. I want you to know that every email you send, every phonecall you make, every protest you attend – it's all worth it.

Because while politics created the cruel offshore detention regime, it can also break it.

Stay tuned for next steps. Because this movement won't just sit waiting for February. We're going to keep fighting, every step of the way alongside those people detained in our name. And now we know that we will win.


Yours in hope,


Shen and Renaire for the GetUp! team

Ps. The Government's going to come for this coalition of conscience before February. With Dutton's usual lies about boats and brown men and what-not. We must be ready to fight back.



The goverment needs to be made to come back today not bloody Febuary.....
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Re: The latest shame from Nauru

Postby johnsmith » 08 Dec 2018, 12:01

Thanks for that Don. Even if it was heartbreaking to read!

Says a lot about this government that for something as mundane as a pay rise for politicians they'll keep the house open until midnight, but for something as important as the lives of the kids on Nauru they trip over their own feet in the rush to get out the door.

I hope this haunts the dogs in the liberal party for the rest of their miserable lives.
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Re: The latest shame from Nauru

Postby mothra » 08 Dec 2018, 12:14

Onya Don! I got that email too and debated as to whether to share it here ... so glad you did.

I love how they hold hope, despite another crushing blow, evidence of a ratbag government and more long months detained for innocent, traumatised an d suffering children.

And the grown-ups too.
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Re: The latest shame from Nauru

Postby Dax » 08 Dec 2018, 14:23

DonDeeHippy wrote:This is a long email, but I've just returned from Parliament House, and I wanted to let you know exactly what happened.

Yesterday, Scott Morrison's Government played games in the Senate and then fled the House of Representatives – leaving their entire policy agenda behind – to avoid a bill that would compel Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton to transfer children, their families and anyone else in need of medical assessment and treatment from Manus and Nauru to care in Australia.

But the Morrison Government's cowardice didn't stop Senators from an extraordinary coalition of conscience. They voted hour after hour after hour, up against a filibuster from the Government, Pauline Hanson and Cory Bernardi on the final day of sitting for 2018, to push the #KidsOffNauru legislation through the Senate.

But the final Senate vote came one hour too late. By the time it had passed, the Morrison Government had already shut down the House of Representatives and literally fled the building.

It was a bittersweet moment. But this legislation will still be waiting when the House of Representatives returns in February – and it will pass. When it does, within 48 hours of it becoming law, we will see the kids and their families off Nauru, and emergency flights of critically ill men and women from offshore detention touch down in Australia.

But Don, to come within one hour of passing a bill that would have brought children and critically ill people from Manus and Nauru to Australia BY SUNDAY was absolutely heartbreaking.

Newly elected Dr Kerryn Phelps, who drove this Bill through in the first fortnight of her Federal career, slumped back in her chair as the Bill passed the Senate but the lights were already off in the House.

These same scenes repeated themselves as Senators left the chamber. Senator Tim Storer who tabled the Bill, having worked night after night to finely balance competing considerations across the political spectrum, had his head buried in his hands.

But the thing I most wanted to tell you, Don, was that in that same moment that our politics most failed us, the incredible potential of politics and our democracy was also at its most evident.


The extraordinary events of yesterday happened because politicians of principle genuinely listened to the people-powered movement in Australia, and the voices of those still detained. Politicians who knew that the treatment of those on Manus and Nauru isn't about left and right – it's about right and wrong.

I watched the Australian Greens Senators huddle anxiously together outside the Chamber door (with Adam Bandt actually running across from the House of Representatives), trying to find a way through the Government's filibuster. They knew they were just inches away from saving the lives of those in offshore detention, whose rights they had defended for decades.

Greens Immigration spokesperson Senator Nick McKim stood shoulder to shoulder with Senator Storer to table the bill, working tirelessly with people from across the political spectrum hoping for a win especially for the oft-forgotten adults. As, McKim exited the Senate when it was all done, close to tears, all he could say was:"How can I tell those people in the camps they have to wait another three months for treatment, when they needed it yesterday."

I watched the women of the House of Representatives crossbench, Rebekha Sharkie, former Liberal MP Julia Banks, and Cathy McGowan embrace Dr Phelps and her Bill. They also stood in their own right to argue in different ways for a sensible solution to the medical crisis that has enveloped the children, and the adults in offshore detention.

I watched Senator Derryn Hinch forced to battle Twitter trolls from his Senate seat, remaining emphatic that he stood with all kids, including those detained offshore – even as the Morrison Government cynically dangled legislation he had long fought for to entice him over to their side. He sat alongside Centre Alliance Senators Griff and Patrick, both weary and indignant at the antics of the Government playing with Parliamentary procedure to avoid following the clear desire of the Australian public to get kids off Nauru, and follow doctors' orders with the women and men.

There stood Andrew Wilkie and his staff, biting their nails as they watched the Senate filibuster and then the House of Representatives clock. Wilkie had put the initial #KidsOffNauru Bill forward in the House months ago, but had graciously worked with everyone else to help draft a new Bill and find a new pathway through the Senate to ensure it become law. He stood repeatedly in the House this week, as he has done for years and years, arguing for justice for the people detained in our name.

And then, after so long of being ripped apart on this issue, I watched the Australian Labor Party. Penny Wong, on her feet for hours at the table in the Senate, stabbing her finger in righteous fury at the Government's dirty tricks. Their Senators determined to hold, in the face of fear-mongering Government speeches about boats and borders, to the fundamental tenet that sick people should never be denied treatment. When Opposition Leader Bill Shorten stood before snapping cameras and said kids should be off Nauru late last night, he stood for the work of a united Labor caucus led by Shadow Immigration Minister Shayne Neumann, which went back and forth for months between lawyers, doctors and internal champions – intent on finding the way through, even from Opposition, to finally address the medical crisis offshore.

What I saw yesterday was a coalition of conscience emerge. And it renewed my faith in the promise of our politics.


"Faith in the promise of our politics", only if you have a society death wish. This load of egocentric wank fest by PC fools, is just leading us faster down the path to the bottom end of life as we know it. There is not one politician with the brains to take us anywhere but down, all these supposed independents are no different to the main party clones, just as deludedly bent and useless for the real future.

Very interesting in how deeply in denial and fantasy land ideological clones are programmed in, it;s so strong they have no idea of what the true reality of their deluded warped egoism will bring everyone.
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Re: The latest shame from Nauru

Postby hatty » 10 Dec 2018, 09:19

johnsmith wrote:Thanks for that Don. Even if it was heartbreaking to read!

Says a lot about this government that for something as mundane as a pay rise for politicians they'll keep the house open until midnight, but for something as important as the lives of the kids on Nauru they trip over their own feet in the rush to get out the door.

I hope this haunts the dogs in the liberal party for the rest of their miserable lives.


they really are a bunch of cunts aren't they?!
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Re: The latest shame from Nauru

Postby Sprintcyclist » 10 Dec 2018, 09:57

Good, the crims know their syndicate does not function here.

We won't be lumbered with sick illegals.
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Re: The latest shame from Nauru

Postby hatty » 10 Dec 2018, 12:04

Sprintcyclist wrote:Good, the crims know their syndicate does not function here.

We won't be lumbered with sick illegals.



what do suggest?

just let them die?


and nothing they have done is illegal.

the syndicate we call our government does not function here.

they are sick...... and doing more illegal shit than those they unlawfully imprison ......

so you could say the sick illegals are already here.
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Re: The latest shame from Nauru

Postby Sprintcyclist » 10 Dec 2018, 13:23

We should have sent them back to their home the same day they arrived.
We should still do that.

There are ways of immigrating to Australia.
making a deal with people smugglers is not one of those ways.

We are one of the more desirable countries to live in, we should accept only the best people.
Not those that get here with a total disregard to their own and others safety.
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Re: The latest shame from Nauru

Postby hatty » 10 Dec 2018, 13:35

Sprintcyclist wrote:We should have sent them back to their home the same day they arrived.
We should still do that.

There are ways of immigrating to Australia.
making a deal with people smugglers is not one of those ways.

We are one of the more desirable countries to live in, we should accept only the best people.
Not those that get here with a total disregard to their own and others safety.


To me..... the risks they've taken only further emphasises the seriousness of their determination to escape from whatever it is that they have fled.

sending them home would be in violation of the UN convention that we are signatory to.

instead we imprisoned them in squaller.

don't take it from me though....... take it from the fucking QC

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... australian
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Re: The latest shame from Nauru

Postby Sprintcyclist » 10 Dec 2018, 14:54

The UN are a flawed outmoded bias inept organisation.

They can take all the immigrants who try to force their way here.
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Re: The latest shame from Nauru

Postby hatty » 10 Dec 2018, 15:16

criticising the UN isn't going to help any refugees....... including those on Nauru....... and we have helped create our fair share of them...... from Vietnam, to Afghanistan, to Iraq

The UN may not be perfect but it is the best thing we have at the moment to bring many different countries to the table to discuss some very serious issues that need addressing.

displaced people and climate change are on the top of that list!

Australia is already however giving them the finger over refugees now so why don't they just leave?

go all out isolationist like old mate and make Australia great again!

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Re: The latest shame from Nauru

Postby Dax » 10 Dec 2018, 15:34

hatty wrote:criticising the UN isn't going to help any refugees....... including those on Nauru....... and we have helped create our fair share of them...... from Vietnam, to Afghanistan, to Iraq

The UN may not be perfect but it is the best thing we have at the moment to bring many different countries to the table to discuss some very serious issues that need addressing.

displaced people and climate change are on the top of that list!

Australia is already however giving them the finger over refugees now so why don't they just leave?

go all out isolationist like old mate and make Australia great again!

/sarcasm


Get a life, they are not refugees, but economic invaders. Refugees are those stuck in camps living in real squalor, violence and suppression and not supported like our governments do, just given crumbs.

Refugees don't pay to fly thousand of klms to Indonesia, then pay again to be smuggled into Aus. Refugees have no money and have actually fled from the crisis. The morons on Nauru, have money to buy phones, they get internet, free medical food and lodgings and are free to roam the island. They are not locked up at all, they are also committing crimes there, which proves they are not of good character.

It's only the idiotic brain dead PC cretins, who support bringing this ideological scum to our country, to increase our crime rates and now we have the insane labor party wanting to bring in murders and rapists, claiming, character should have no bearing on who comes here.

On the other hand, why not, nothing like inviting the self declared enemies of our lifestyle in, so they can undermine our society and turn it into the kind of deranged place they came from. Ever heard of the trojan horse, no different and we are seeing the results worldwide including Aus as out refugees and descendants of muslims invaders increase our crime rates. The majority of gun seizures and gun events in this country today involve refugees and their offspring.
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Re: The latest shame from Nauru

Postby Sprintcyclist » 10 Dec 2018, 15:38

hatty wrote:criticising the UN isn't going to help any refugees....... including those on Nauru....... and we have helped create our fair share of them...... from Vietnam, to Afghanistan, to Iraq

The UN may not be perfect but it is the best thing we have at the moment to bring many different countries to the table to discuss some very serious issues that need addressing.

displaced people and climate change are on the top of that list!

Australia is already however giving them the finger over refugees now so why don't they just leave?

go all out isolationist like old mate and make Australia great again!

/sarcasm


We cannot help everyone in the world.
Just because they hire criminals to get them on a leaky boat does not give them admittance to here.
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Re: The latest shame from Nauru

Postby Aussie » 10 Dec 2018, 15:48

Just because they hire criminals to get them on a leaky boat does not give them admittance to here.


So....is it illegal to hire boats in Indonesia?
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Re: The latest shame from Nauru

Postby hatty » 10 Dec 2018, 16:18

Dax wrote:
hatty wrote:criticising the UN isn't going to help any refugees....... including those on Nauru....... and we have helped create our fair share of them...... from Vietnam, to Afghanistan, to Iraq

The UN may not be perfect but it is the best thing we have at the moment to bring many different countries to the table to discuss some very serious issues that need addressing.

displaced people and climate change are on the top of that list!

Australia is already however giving them the finger over refugees now so why don't they just leave?

go all out isolationist like old mate and make Australia great again!

/sarcasm


Get a life, they are not refugees, but economic invaders. Refugees are those stuck in camps living in real squalor, violence and suppression and not supported like our governments do, just given crumbs.

Refugees don't pay to fly thousand of klms to Indonesia, then pay again to be smuggled into Aus. Refugees have no money and have actually fled from the crisis. The morons on Nauru, have money to buy phones, they get internet, free medical food and lodgings and are free to roam the island. They are not locked up at all, they are also committing crimes there, which proves they are not of good character.

It's only the idiotic brain dead PC cretins, who support bringing this ideological scum to our country, to increase our crime rates and now we have the insane labor party wanting to bring in murders and rapists, claiming, character should have no bearing on who comes here.

On the other hand, why not, nothing like inviting the self declared enemies of our lifestyle in, so they can undermine our society and turn it into the kind of deranged place they came from. Ever heard of the trojan horse, no different and we are seeing the results worldwide including Aus as out refugees and descendants of muslims invaders increase our crime rates. The majority of gun seizures and gun events in this country today involve refugees and their offspring.



I stopped reading after the first paragraph

some people care about others...

others would prefer to turn a blind eye. I guess thats where we differ.

and how the fuck can you prove they are economic invaders? the government wont let anyone on fucking Nauru so the world wont see how shit it is!

you don"t know a fucking thing about any of them. That's the way Dutton wants it so don't give me that shit.
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Re: The latest shame from Nauru

Postby johnsmith » 10 Dec 2018, 18:28

Sprintcyclist wrote:
We cannot help everyone in the world.


no one's ever asked you to ya dickhead
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Re: The latest shame from Nauru

Postby Dax » 10 Dec 2018, 19:05

hatty wrote:
Dax wrote:
hatty wrote:criticising the UN isn't going to help any refugees....... including those on Nauru....... and we have helped create our fair share of them...... from Vietnam, to Afghanistan, to Iraq

The UN may not be perfect but it is the best thing we have at the moment to bring many different countries to the table to discuss some very serious issues that need addressing.

displaced people and climate change are on the top of that list!

Australia is already however giving them the finger over refugees now so why don't they just leave?

go all out isolationist like old mate and make Australia great again!

/sarcasm


Get a life, they are not refugees, but economic invaders. Refugees are those stuck in camps living in real squalor, violence and suppression and not supported like our governments do, just given crumbs.

Refugees don't pay to fly thousand of klms to Indonesia, then pay again to be smuggled into Aus. Refugees have no money and have actually fled from the crisis. The morons on Nauru, have money to buy phones, they get internet, free medical food and lodgings and are free to roam the island. They are not locked up at all, they are also committing crimes there, which proves they are not of good character.

It's only the idiotic brain dead PC cretins, who support bringing this ideological scum to our country, to increase our crime rates and now we have the insane labor party wanting to bring in murders and rapists, claiming, character should have no bearing on who comes here.

On the other hand, why not, nothing like inviting the self declared enemies of our lifestyle in, so they can undermine our society and turn it into the kind of deranged place they came from. Ever heard of the trojan horse, no different and we are seeing the results worldwide including Aus as out refugees and descendants of muslims invaders increase our crime rates. The majority of gun seizures and gun events in this country today involve refugees and their offspring.



I stopped reading after the first paragraph

some people care about others...

others would prefer to turn a blind eye. I guess thats where we differ.

and how the fuck can you prove they are economic invaders? the government wont let anyone on fucking Nauru so the world wont see how shit it is!

you don"t know a fucking thing about any of them. That's the way Dutton wants it so don't give me that shit.


Amazing, being a god nutter, thought you'd not be able to read past the first line before losing it, congratulations. :clap Been to Nauru a number of times, just like lots of other people and no restrictions. Doubt you've been any where outside your day dreams. All you useless pricks who have never been anywhere outside the country, except to the ridiculous consumer tourist trails, make out you know, when you know bugger all about anything of worth.

People who pay tens of thousand of dollars to fly from middle eastern and Asia minor countries, then fork out many more thousands of dollars to be smuggled into Aus, are economic refugees. They have the resources to set themselves up in one of many countries they pass through getting to the boats. They are mostly muslim countries who accept them instantly, if they have money.

There is an article in the news, regarding a supposed refugees who was holidaying in Thailand when he was picked up for some islamic crime, now where did this poor should get the money to go overseas and there are many many many of these so called refugees returning to theirs and other countries to holiday, visit relatives and bring back muslim wife's and the rest of their huge families in the insane family reunions scheme. One gets here, mostly young males, they establish, then bring out their extended families, resulting in not one but more than 10 of them.
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