Federal Election 2019—the campaign

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Re: Federal Election 2019—the campaign

Postby HBS Guy » 13 May 2019, 23:20

Scummo is a failed ad man. “Where the bloody hell are you” was his idea. Flopped. He will now too.
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Re: Federal Election 2019—the campaign

Postby pinkeye » 14 May 2019, 03:08

See tho people are often stupid.. and when you see things repeated over and over, at a really base ;evel, it get's into the psyche. morrison is playing dishonest mindgames in the media, and it really annoys me that too many people will be inclined to believe his lies.

I'll say it again.. this election is a real watershed … it will determine the future for Australians... more than any other election in my recent memory.

We WILL get the government we deserve.
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Re: Federal Election 2019—the campaign

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Re: Federal Election 2019—the campaign

Postby Sprintcyclist » 14 May 2019, 13:05

pinkeye wrote:See tho people are often stupid.. and when you see things repeated over and over, at a really base ;evel, it get's into the psyche. morrison is playing dishonest mindgames in the media, and it really annoys me that too many people will be inclined to believe his lies.

I'll say it again.. this election is a real watershed … it will determine the future for Australians... more than any other election in my recent memory.

We WILL get the government we deserve.



' .......... this election is a real watershed ...... '

If what you say is true then good, we will have a govt run totally by hard nosed right wingers
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Re: Federal Election 2019—the campaign

Postby HBS Guy » 14 May 2019, 15:16

You seriously cannot say “hardnosed right whingers” when we have had six visionless, incompetent and corrupt government that rooted the one thing that would have really helped the nation, the NBN.

Labor has been united and developed a coherent set of policies.
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Re: Federal Election 2019—the campaign

Postby Chuck » 14 May 2019, 20:22

pinkeye wrote: All these new young minds, tuned to the political miasma for the first time, in a Federal Election...???


Think clearly, who is manipulating their minds and it’s not their generation!

History has proven a number of times, that the younger generations deluded themselves into believing that they are smarter then the previous generation.

I can recall an TV interview with some Uni students during the Balkan war, who claimed that they were better educated then the previous generation. They couldn’t understand why they were killing each other, when they are all the same people.

What they didn’t realise is that these old farts, who where in charge of Yugoslavia, saw an opportunity in fulfilling
their failed aspiration during WII.

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Re: Federal Election 2019—the campaign

Postby pinkeye » 14 May 2019, 21:11

It remains to be seen.

Not long to wait now.
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Re: Federal Election 2019—the campaign

Postby Chuck » 15 May 2019, 08:40

pinkeye wrote:All these new young minds, tuned to the political miasma for the first time, in a Federal Election...???


I think, I've worked out which generations you are referring too!

The one's who want taxpayers to act as surrogate parents, provide kiddies dumping grounds and have an expectation that non-child obligated employee's be discriminated against for their pretence of being responsible parents.

The one's who are too snobby to buy houses that they can actually afford in certain suburbs because they believe they are entitled to afford to buy within the inner city. Yet in other countries, some kids have to travel over 10 kms on foot to simply get a primary school education.

Changing habitable norms, with apartments being designed without kitchens.

The one's who want to cause the community to suffer over their rapid demand for addressing climate change. Yet, the community is only producing a minuscule amounts in the scheme of things, purely for grandstanding reasons.

The Greenies are responsible for the introduction of disposable plastic bags, people starving because of their demand for crops to supply the bio-fuel industry etc.

Challenge a Greenie about a definite ' single-use item' called a disposable nappy. It on par to the demonised grocery bags when it comes polluting our environment and sea life deaths.
It’s a taboo question to a Greenie because the vote is more important to them then the environment.

The generation mentioned can’t walk a few metres to thrown a bit of trash in a bin or place a shopping trolley in the bay, scrap turds into a toilet before disposing the disposal nappies into the bin.

They further contribute material and environmental damage by lacking simply culinary skills - contributing to climate change by their laziness with vehicles delivery system.

Sensible climate change should be performed what I term 'Prudent Avoidance' not stupid rapidity!

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Re: Federal Election 2019—the campaign

Postby Dax » 15 May 2019, 09:36

Chuck wrote:
pinkeye wrote:All these new young minds, tuned to the political miasma for the first time, in a Federal Election...???


I think, I've worked out which generations you are referring too!

The one's who want taxpayers to act as surrogate parents, provide kiddies dumping grounds and have an expectation that non-child obligated employee's be discriminated against for their pretence of being responsible parents.

The one's who are too snobby to buy houses that they can actually afford in certain suburbs because they believe they are entitled to afford to buy within the inner city. Yet in other countries, some kids have to travel over 10 kms on foot to simply get a primary school education.

Changing habitable norms, with apartments being designed without kitchens.

The one's who want to cause the community to suffer over their rapid demand for addressing climate change. Yet, the community is only producing a minuscule amounts in the scheme of things, purely for grandstanding reasons.

The Greenies are responsible for the introduction of disposable plastic bags, people starving because of their demand for crops to supply the bio-fuel industry etc.

Challenge a Greenie about a definite ' single-use item' called a disposable nappy. It on par to the demonised grocery bags when it comes polluting our environment and sea life deaths.
It’s a taboo question to a Greenie because the vote is more important to them then the environment.

The generation mentioned can’t walk a few metres to thrown a bit of trash in a bin or place a shopping trolley in the bay, scrap turds into a toilet before disposing the disposal nappies into the bin.

They further contribute material and environmental damage by lacking simply culinary skills - contributing to climate change by their laziness with vehicles delivery system.

Sensible climate change should be performed what I term 'Prudent Avoidance' not stupid rapidity!

Chuck


You need to stop looking in the mirror when expressing your thoughts, each generation has its faults and blames another generation. It's par for the course when dealing with ideological humanity, they can never take responsibility for their actions and that's why we have the problems and situations we currently have. You can't blame one generation, as all generations alive are involve.

This campaign is no different to any other, same lies, same false promises, same deception and same blame shifting. If toy wan to talk about historical facts, you will find there is very little difference between the outcomes of libs compared to the outcomes of labs, all have been disastrous for the future no matter whether they are federal or state.

The outcome of this election will determine the future of this country and if there are not more independents elected, then you can be sure our future is totally stuffed in a big way. There is no possibility the major parties will do anything, but more of the same and as we have seen ion the past, when it comes to climate change they both make big claims, but in the last 4 decades they have been claiming to be doing something about it, they have done the opposite and the devastating effects are now virtually beyond stopping.
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Re: Federal Election 2019—the campaign

Postby Chuck » 15 May 2019, 15:42

DAX said, '"you will find there is very little difference between the outcomes of libs compared to the outcomes of labs"

Yep! The LABOR party is really a disguised SLOW MOTION Coalition party!

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Re: Federal Election 2019—the campaign

Postby HBS Guy » 15 May 2019, 17:44

Tony Burke is correctly concerned that the MSM ignored Labor’s environmental policy announcement and has requested that it be publicised to any social media groups interested. These are the main points:

• Facilitate a national framework for building climate resilience, bringing together local and state governments, community groups, the business community, researchers and relevant Commonwealth agencies and departments. The national framework will provide the leadership that has been lacking under the Liberals to develop plans to adapt to climate impacts.
• Re-invigorate the National Climate Change Adaptation Research Facility (NCCARF) to support the creation and dissemination of research into local climate change impacts, through re-funding of the program with $3 million per year.
• Introduce a $50 million Coastal Rehabilitation Fund, to work with communities, local governments, and the Australian Coastal Council Association to directly support coastal rehabilitation projects that restore beaches and adjacent coastal environments and improve their resilience.
• Reform Australia’s environmental law, by passing a new Federal Environment Act.
• Where possible, harmonise state and federal laws to minimise duplication.
• Create a new Act which obligates the Australian Government to both protect and restore Australia’s environment.
• Establishing a new national Environment Protection Authority with the mission to protect Australia’s natural environment and deliver rigorous compliance.
• $200 million Urban Rivers and Corridors Program.
• $90 million Plastics and Recycling Package.
• More than $200 million to double the number of Indigenous Rangers over five years.
• More than $400 million through the return of Great Barrier Reef Foundation grant, to be reinvested through public agencies
• $30 million for Reef HQ.



If someone could post that in OzPol?
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Re: Federal Election 2019—the campaign

Postby johnsmith » 15 May 2019, 18:51

HBS Guy wrote:If someone could post that in OzPol?


done!
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Re: Federal Election 2019—the campaign

Postby HBS Guy » 15 May 2019, 20:31

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Re: Federal Election 2019—the campaign

Postby pinkeye » 15 May 2019, 21:22

there is no doubt that Labor has run a better campaign, despite the grandstanding of Morrison. I mean really..? Nothing , is what they have.
Blathering on about their magnificent economic ability, when no-one has had a pay-rise in their reign, except themselves, and the wealth NS THE MULTI-NATIONALS. aND BOY they FOUGHT HARD AGAINST THE cOMMISSION INTO bANKING ETC oops/

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Re: Federal Election 2019—the campaign

Postby HBS Guy » 16 May 2019, 09:26

Shorten telling the idiot Leader of a supposed environmental Party, the Greens, to get stuffed:

Labor aims to reduce emissions by 45% by 2030, while the Greens want Australia to achieve net zero emissions by 2040.

In rebuffing Di Natale’s offer to negotiate a new climate package after the election, Shorten accused the Greens of “[stuffing] up climate change in the 43rd parliament by their terms” and “[costing] us action on climate change in 2009” when the Greens refused to support Kevin Rudd’s proposed emissions trading scheme.

Di Natale has flagged the Greens will pressure Labor “to be as ambitious as it possibly can be” on emissions reduction.


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/may/16/greens-would-demand-1bn-fund-from-labor-for-just-transition-of-coal-workers

Exactly right, the Greens blocked one attempt to price carbon, the CPRS, and sabotaged the second, Gillard’s Carbon Price.

They do that because they are no longer environmental but neoliberal, don’t want their wealthy inner city base to have to pay to price carbon. So they have a lousy history in this area and cannot be trusted. Good on Bill!
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Re: Federal Election 2019—the campaign

Postby HBS Guy » 16 May 2019, 14:36

It appears the Libs, under turdfull’s people swap, accepted two Rwandan murderers in exchange for 1204 refugees going to the US.

Murderers!

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Re: Federal Election 2019—the campaign

Postby HBS Guy » 16 May 2019, 14:41

Hmmm ABC says “alleged murderers.” FWIW


Hmmmm
They are confessed murderers, but a US Court found that they could not be tried due to the fact their confessions were likely coerced using torture.

But I would’ve thought that even suspected murderers would fail Dutton and Co’s almighty character test?

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Re: Federal Election 2019—the campaign

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Re: Federal Election 2019—the campaign

Postby Aussie » 16 May 2019, 14:59

HBS Guy wrote:It appears the Libs, under turdfull’s people swap, accepted two Samoan murderers in exchange for 1204 refugees going to the US.

Murderers!

:oops


Samoan? Thought it was Rwandan.
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Re: Federal Election 2019—the campaign

Postby HBS Guy » 16 May 2019, 15:36

It is, just fixed my post.

Sorry, bit under the weather ATM.
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Re: Federal Election 2019—the campaign

Postby HBS Guy » 16 May 2019, 17:41

Sums it up:

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Re: Federal Election 2019—the campaign

Postby johnsmith » 16 May 2019, 18:00

HBS Guy wrote:Alex Turnbull intervenes with GetUp:

https://twitter.com/9NewsAUS/status/1128838459861266432



he seems to be a vast improvement on his father.
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Re: Federal Election 2019—the campaign

Postby HBS Guy » 16 May 2019, 19:51

Bob Hawke, 23rd PM, dies aged 89.

News msg on my iPhone.
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Re: Federal Election 2019—the campaign

Postby HBS Guy » 16 May 2019, 19:56

Scummo waffled on and on at high speed att eh NPC, didn’t really answer any questions.

Shorten’s speech in Blacktown got a rousing reception! Well planned, Bill.
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Re: Federal Election 2019—the campaign

Postby HBS Guy » 16 May 2019, 20:08

E-mail from Bill



It is with a heavy heart that I write to you about the passing of Bob Hawke, Australia’s 23rd Prime Minister.

The Australian people loved Bob because they knew Bob loved them, this was true to the very end.

With his passing, the labour movement salutes our greatest son, the Labor Party gives thanks for the life of our longest-serving Prime Minister and Australians everywhere remember and honour a man who gave so much to the country and people he cared for so deeply.

In coming days and weeks our nation will give its tribute to a leader and statesman who inspired such profound affection and admiration, such loyalty and love among so many.

We will remember and revisit the images we know so well.

Bob with microphone or megaphone in one hand, the other moving in time with his words, rallying, inspiring and delighting a crowd.

Bob with head cocked, one hand grasping his earlobe, listening respectfully to an Aboriginal elder, a captain of industry, laughing with an American President or charming a local parent out doing their shopping.

Maybe in the stands, eyes fixed on the track, creased and folded form guide in hand, ticking off another winner.

Or in that iconic jacket, mouth open with laughter, dodging the beer and champagne, giving his Prime Ministerial blessing to a national sickie.

Those images will always be with us, the words to accompany them will pour in from across the country and around the world.

But the most powerful and enduring tributes to Bob Hawke are not words or pictures, they are found all around us.

World-class universities, where places are earned on merit not purchased by privilege.

Children from working-class families who finish school. Less than 3 in 10 kids did that when Bob came to office, 8 in 10 when he left.

A modern, outward-looking, competitive economy, built around the principle that working and middle class people must be fairly rewarded for their efforts.

A system dedicated to the idea that growth is stronger when it is shared, when wages and living standards rise and a generous safety net catches those who fall on hard times.

A country where tourists and locals alike share the wonders of the Daintree, or ride the rapids of the Franklin.

An Australia at home in Asia, a voice heard and respected in the councils of the world.

A country that steps up and plays its part, keeping peace in the Middle East, keeping Antarctica safe for science.

Every Australian carries a monument to Bob Hawke with them, their Medicare card. A green-and-gold promise that the health of any one of us, matters to all of us.

As President of the ACTU, Bob was the champion of unpopular causes:

The right of unions to organise and bargain.
Opposing French nuclear testing in the Pacific.
Opposing the war in Vietnam.
Opposing Apartheid and defending Nelson Mandela, when conservatives were branding him a terrorist.

He was a leader of conviction – and a builder of consensus. But for Bob, consensus and co-operation never meant pursuing the lowest common denominator.

Bringing the country together never meant presenting people with the soft option, or taking the nation down the low road or the lazy path of least resistance.

Bob and the brilliant cabinet he chaired so assuredly didn’t demand consensus or capitulate to it, they built it: through leadership, through persuasion, through Bob’s special connection with the Australian people that he nurtured and treasured.

After he left politics, Bob’s innate appreciation for Australians’ aspirations made him a wonderful source of advice and inspiration for his successors.

He was always generous with his time, and well into his ninth decade, remained a star performer at every Labor gathering he attended. No night was complete without his rendition of “Solidarity Forever”.

In Australian history, in Australian politics, there will always be B.H. and A.H: Before Hawke and After Hawke.

After Hawke, we were a different country.

A kinder, better, bigger and bolder country.

His brilliant, incomparable partnership with Paul Keating transformed our economy.

His deep friendship and co-operation with Bill Kelty gave us the national Accord and the social wage.

In our region, conscientiously, sensitively and with deep humility, he engaged the leaders and people of Asia.

He knew that Australia’s future depended on making peace with our past, through true and lasting Reconciliation with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.

And he understood the duty we all have to preserve our natural heritage, to protect the environmental treasures we hold on trust for future generations.

Of course, to honour Bob is to pay tribute to Blanche, his chronicler, companion, confidante and champion. Their love for each other shone through everything.

Blanche is in our hearts today, so too are Bob’s children, Sue, Stephen, Rosslyn, his stepson Louis and his grandchildren.

At our Labor launch I told Bob we loved him, I promised we would win for him. I said the same to him the next day at his home, when I visited.

It was Monday 6 May, the Sydney sun was out, that famous silver mane, now snow-white. Cigar in hand, strawberry milkshake on the table, the hefty bulk of his dictionary holding down the day’s cryptic crossword.

I gave the man who inspired me to go into politics a gentle hug, I tried to tell him what he meant to me, what he meant to all of us.

I couldn’t quite find the right words, few of us can, when we’re face-to-face with our heroes.

But Bob knew.

He knew what he meant to Australia, he knew what he had achieved for the country.

He knew he was loved, right to the end.

We honour him.

We will remember him.

In solidarity, forever.

May he rest in peace.

– Bill
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