All time global heat wave setting records!

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Re: All time global heat wave setting records!

Postby Bongalong » 15 Jul 2018, 15:55

HBS Guy wrote:Haven’t seen 50 comments in a row tho!

Yeh, well you know who I mean... not a bad bloke of course I'm just saying!
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Re: All time global heat wave setting records!

Postby HBS Guy » 15 Jul 2018, 16:15

Some people have galloping verbal diarrhea :roll :bgrin :yellow :purple :yellow
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Re: All time global heat wave setting records!

Postby Bongalong » 16 Jul 2018, 12:42

HBS Guy wrote:Some people have galloping verbal diarrhea :roll :bgrin :yellow :purple :yellow

Yeh, well, he seems to be a good bloke atleast: possibly just a wee lonely but that makes Robert Scribbler all the more a nicer guy for telling him he's always welcome to post there so all is good in the world I suppose.
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Re: All time global heat wave setting records!

Postby HBS Guy » 23 Jul 2018, 06:36

Robert has forgotten to pay his domain name registration! :oops
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Re: All time global heat wave setting records!

Postby Bongalong » 23 Jul 2018, 14:44

HBS Guy wrote:Robert has forgotten to pay his domain name registration! :oops

"!STONE HIM AT ONCE I SAY.... !!!!" :beer
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Re: All time global heat wave setting records!

Postby HBS Guy » 23 Jul 2018, 15:04

He is back online. It happens.
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Re: All time global heat wave setting records!

Postby Bongalong » 23 Jul 2018, 15:11

HBS Guy wrote:He is back online. It happens.

Couldn't handle the stones ay?

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Re: All time global heat wave setting records!

Postby HBS Guy » 23 Jul 2018, 20:31

Nope.
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Re: All time global heat wave setting records!

Postby Bongalong » 24 Jul 2018, 14:47

HBS Guy wrote:Nope.

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Re: All time global heat wave setting records!

Postby HBS Guy » 27 Jul 2018, 11:48

YouTube by Paul Beckwith who studies the climate and its trends. He isn’t a scientist, a geograoher as far as I can make out.

Not a polished presentation—feel like screaming sometimes, slow down! Explain, give us time to look at a graph or photo etc. But knows his stuff:



Has quite a series of them, worth watching some of them at least.

Now an actual scientist, Dr Jennifer Francis, who REALLY knows her stuff, worth watching even if you know nothing about climate:



Arctic ice is thinning, no ice thicker than 2 metres is left and a time when the Arctic is largely ice–free in summer is not far away—remember that a new El Nino is building in the Pacific!

It takes a lot of heat to melt 1 cubic centimetre of ice, hence we can use ice to keep our beer and food cold. The same amount of heat, in joules, that will melt 1cc of 0°C ice to 0°C water will heat 1cc of 0°C water to 80°C water! Imagine that heat engine at the top of the world! The heat in the Arctic ocean will melt other ice, some will escape to the atmosphere over the Arctic Ocean and then over the middle latitudes: Canada, US, Scandinavia, Western Europe, Eastern Europe, Siberia and European Russia, northern China etc. Some of the heat will release methane and CO2 from the floor of the Arctic Ocean. The tundra is thawing now—complete proof that we are not in an ice age just BTW, and that will accelerate and AGW will accelerate.

I hope and pray none of this will happen until I am safely and cosily dead!
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Re: All time global heat wave setting records!

Postby Bongalong » 31 Jul 2018, 14:11

HBS Guy wrote:There are some huge gaps already, Aug-Sep are the low ice months.

The trend toward lower sea ice in the North is concrete by simple observation. Not so in the South however! The facts are that sea ice doesn't even exist at the south pole, however, so they are obviously completely different environments and a healthy respect for this important distinction is obviously missing from the public debate.

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Re: All time global heat wave setting records!

Postby HBS Guy » 31 Jul 2018, 15:41

There is sea ice around Antarctica, DRAH. Some is seasonal and there are ice shelves: it is the collapse of some of the shelves has led to glaciers sliding in to the oceans.
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Re: All time global heat wave setting records!

Postby Bongalong » 01 Aug 2018, 18:15

HBS Guy wrote:There is sea ice around Antarctica, DRAH. Some is seasonal and there are ice shelves: it is the collapse of some of the shelves has led to glaciers sliding in to the oceans.

Ice shelves aren't sea ice though: so what is the point you are trying to make?
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Re: All time global heat wave setting records!

Postby HBS Guy » 01 Aug 2018, 18:53

Ice shelves are sea ice!
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Re: All time global heat wave setting records!

Postby johnsmith » 01 Aug 2018, 20:48

Bongalong wrote:
HBS Guy wrote:There is sea ice around Antarctica, DRAH. Some is seasonal and there are ice shelves: it is the collapse of some of the shelves has led to glaciers sliding in to the oceans.

Ice shelves aren't sea ice though: so what is the point you are trying to make?


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Re: All time global heat wave setting records!

Postby Bongalong » 02 Aug 2018, 15:46

HBS Guy wrote:Ice shelves are sea ice!

I though they were the end point of glaciers bruther! :Hi :beer :beer :beer :beer :beer :bgrin
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Re: All time global heat wave setting records!

Postby HBS Guy » 02 Aug 2018, 18:37

They are on the sea tho.
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Re: All time global heat wave setting records!

Postby Bongalong » 02 Aug 2018, 18:43

HBS Guy wrote:They are on the sea tho.

And......................................................................................................................................?? :zzzz
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Re: All time global heat wave setting records!

Postby HBS Guy » 02 Aug 2018, 19:11

So, are sea ice.
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Re: All time global heat wave setting records!

Postby Bongalong » 03 Aug 2018, 15:38

HBS Guy wrote:So, are sea ice.

Yeh, but the thickness difference is in magnitudes of order!
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Re: All time global heat wave setting records!

Postby HBS Guy » 03 Aug 2018, 17:03

BUT

Ice shelves off Antarctica are disappearing. That means land ice can slide into the sea very easily.
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Re: All time global heat wave setting records!

Postby Bongalong » 03 Aug 2018, 17:36

HBS Guy wrote:BUT

Ice shelves off Antarctica are disappearing. That means land ice can slide into the sea very easily.

All True, ...but you are incorrect to say that sea ice shelves are sea ice! :beer
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Re: All time global heat wave setting records!

Postby HBS Guy » 03 Aug 2018, 17:43

No, sea shelves are ice floating on the sea!
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Re: All time global heat wave setting records!

Postby pinkeye » 03 Aug 2018, 20:46

seems we essentially have a difference in opinion as to the definition of Sea Ice.

Sorry Monk I agree with DRAH re that.
Sea ice, must be only of the sea.

And yet we are talking about transitions here. Matters that will become irrelevant soon, or are already. In that the process of a major melt is underway and nothing we do now will halt this melt.

You may not agree on the nature of this melt-off of hitherto frozen water, globally, but I think we are all agreed that the climate of the world is changing.

The permafrost should not be overlooked, not to mention the Arctic itself.! . Once that melting really gets going this world will be another place altogether.
In combination with the breaking-up of major glaciers in W Antarctica, surely we can acknowledge... that humanity has reached critical mass. And we are very close to chaos.

NOW?

Enjoy the beauty of the world while you can... and lets work together, rather than as some bogus opposing forces.
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Re: All time global heat wave setting records!

Postby HBS Guy » 03 Aug 2018, 21:00

Permafrost has been thawing for a long time: it is the infallible way of knowing that Booby’s ice age is sheer nonsense.
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