Suicide among young women up

[Sprintcyclist]

Wow sprintcyclist.....

way to try and start a pissing contest over what is a serious problem for both young women and men...... and their loved ones.

good job

did you mean anything by that post ?
Or just wanting to look like a SNAG to the women here?

swearing though, a bit uncouth.

youth suicide = serious

and what the pissing hell is a snag?

Sensitive New Age Guy.

It is an old acronym.

[Auggie]

Buried among the data in the latest ABS report is an even more frightening figure: the number of suicides of women of aged under 25 has increased by 76 per cent over the past 10 years.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/frightening-story-hidden-in-latest-suicide-statistics-20181007-p5089o.html

Used to be it was young men committing suicide, now it is both sexes? What is going on?

Equality ?

As you are a taciturn man with considerable inclination towards being morally and ethically outrageous, i could run a few paths on what you are actually floating here.

I'm choosing to be optimistic and going with you speculating that young women are feeling pressures previously reserved for young men, resultant from career equality.

I contest that. For a great many reasons.

Pertinent to this issue though is method. Women and girls have always attempted suicide in comparable rates to men and boys, it's just that the men and boys tend to employ more violent, irredeemable methods, like gun shot, hanging, etc.

Women and girls tend to overdoses and self-harm. In other words, open to intervention.

What this study suggests to me is that young women are opting for more 'final' methods.

Do you have any evidence to show that women have always 'attempted' suicide in comparable rates to men and boys?

[mothra]

Buried among the data in the latest ABS report is an even more frightening figure: the number of suicides of women of aged under 25 has increased by 76 per cent over the past 10 years.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/frightening-story-hidden-in-latest-suicide-statistics-20181007-p5089o.html

Used to be it was young men committing suicide, now it is both sexes? What is going on?

Equality ?

As you are a taciturn man with considerable inclination towards being morally and ethically outrageous, i could run a few paths on what you are actually floating here.

I'm choosing to be optimistic and going with you speculating that young women are feeling pressures previously reserved for young men, resultant from career equality.

I contest that. For a great many reasons.

Pertinent to this issue though is method. Women and girls have always attempted suicide in comparable rates to men and boys, it's just that the men and boys tend to employ more violent, irredeemable methods, like gun shot, hanging, etc.

Women and girls tend to overdoses and self-harm. In other words, open to intervention.

What this study suggests to me is that young women are opting for more 'final' methods.

Do you have any evidence to show that women have always 'attempted' suicide in comparable rates to men and boys?

Evidence is abundant. It is well known and accepted.

But here. Ground zero:

Gender
In every state and territory of Australia, suicide is much more common among males than females, with the ratio standing at 3:1 in 2012.[16]

According to hospital data, females are more likely to deliberately injure themselves than males. In the 2008–2009 financial year, 62% of those who were hospitalised due to self-harm were female.[17]

Researchers have attributed the difference between attempted and completed suicides among the sexes to males using more lethal means to end their lives.[18]

Suicide rates for both males and females have generally decreased since the mid-90s with the overall suicide rate decreasing by 23% between 1999 and 2009. Suicide rates for males peaked in 1997 at 23.6 per 100,000 but have steadily decreased since then and stood at 14.9 per 100,000 in 2009. Female rates reached a high of 6.2 per 100 000 in 1997. Rates declined after that and was 4.5 per 100 000 in 2009.[19] Comparing sex differences in suicide rates need to consider differences across the lifespan. Since 2003, for females, suicide rates range from 4 – 6 suicides per 100 000 with no apparent age association, whilst for men suicide rates range from 10 – 30 suicides per 100 000 with substantive differences across the lifespan; those males in middle and older age report substantially increased rates of suicide.[20]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_Australia

[Auggie]

Buried among the data in the latest ABS report is an even more frightening figure: the number of suicides of women of aged under 25 has increased by 76 per cent over the past 10 years.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/frightening-story-hidden-in-latest-suicide-statistics-20181007-p5089o.html

Used to be it was young men committing suicide, now it is both sexes? What is going on?

Equality ?

As you are a taciturn man with considerable inclination towards being morally and ethically outrageous, i could run a few paths on what you are actually floating here.

I'm choosing to be optimistic and going with you speculating that young women are feeling pressures previously reserved for young men, resultant from career equality.

I contest that. For a great many reasons.

Pertinent to this issue though is method. Women and girls have always attempted suicide in comparable rates to men and boys, it's just that the men and boys tend to employ more violent, irredeemable methods, like gun shot, hanging, etc.

Women and girls tend to overdoses and self-harm. In other words, open to intervention.

What this study suggests to me is that young women are opting for more 'final' methods.

Do you have any evidence to show that women have always 'attempted' suicide in comparable rates to men and boys?

Evidence is abundant. It is well known and accepted.

But here. Ground zero:

Gender
In every state and territory of Australia, suicide is much more common among males than females, with the ratio standing at 3:1 in 2012.[16]

According to hospital data, females are more likely to deliberately injure themselves than males. In the 2008–2009 financial year, 62% of those who were hospitalised due to self-harm were female.[17]

Researchers have attributed the difference between attempted and completed suicides among the sexes to males using more lethal means to end their lives.[18]

Suicide rates for both males and females have generally decreased since the mid-90s with the overall suicide rate decreasing by 23% between 1999 and 2009. Suicide rates for males peaked in 1997 at 23.6 per 100,000 but have steadily decreased since then and stood at 14.9 per 100,000 in 2009. Female rates reached a high of 6.2 per 100 000 in 1997. Rates declined after that and was 4.5 per 100 000 in 2009.[19] Comparing sex differences in suicide rates need to consider differences across the lifespan. Since 2003, for females, suicide rates range from 4 – 6 suicides per 100 000 with no apparent age association, whilst for men suicide rates range from 10 – 30 suicides per 100 000 with substantive differences across the lifespan; those males in middle and older age report substantially increased rates of suicide.[20]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_Australia

Thanks for that. Very helpful.

[Sprintcyclist]

..................... Suicide rates for males peaked in 1997 at 23.6 per 100,000 but have steadily decreased since then and stood at 14.9 per 100,000 in 2009.
Female rates reached a high of 6.2 per 100 000 in 1997. Rates declined after that and was 4.5 per 100 000 in 2009. ...............

.................. Suicide is predominantly a male cause of death with 76.6 per cent of all suicide deaths in 2009. ................

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/BN/2011-2012/Suicide

As usual lies are told and all the sympathy goes to women, who ALREADY have all the benefits.

Craven men here pander to women as soon as they can

[Auggie]

..................... Suicide rates for males peaked in 1997 at 23.6 per 100,000 but have steadily decreased since then and stood at 14.9 per 100,000 in 2009.
Female rates reached a high of 6.2 per 100 000 in 1997. Rates declined after that and was 4.5 per 100 000 in 2009. ...............

.................. Suicide is predominantly a male cause of death with 76.6 per cent of all suicide deaths in 2009. ................

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/BN/2011-2012/Suicide

As usual lies are told and all the sympathy goes to women, who ALREADY have all the benefits.

Craven men here pander to women as soon as they can

Once again, you have failed to understand the subtlety of Mothra's argument, which focuses on 'attempts' not deaths.

The study you have quoted doesn't talk about 'attempts'.

[mothra]

..................... Suicide rates for males peaked in 1997 at 23.6 per 100,000 but have steadily decreased since then and stood at 14.9 per 100,000 in 2009.
Female rates reached a high of 6.2 per 100 000 in 1997. Rates declined after that and was 4.5 per 100 000 in 2009. ...............

.................. Suicide is predominantly a male cause of death with 76.6 per cent of all suicide deaths in 2009. ................

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/BN/2011-2012/Suicide

As usual lies are told and all the sympathy goes to women, who ALREADY have all the benefits.

Craven men here pander to women as soon as they can

What benefits do women have that men do not?

And were those benefits fought for or handed to us?

Have you been fighting for any benefits? Which ones?

And how is accepting the data on suicide prejudicial? You sound hypersensitive.

[Auggie]

..................... Suicide rates for males peaked in 1997 at 23.6 per 100,000 but have steadily decreased since then and stood at 14.9 per 100,000 in 2009.
Female rates reached a high of 6.2 per 100 000 in 1997. Rates declined after that and was 4.5 per 100 000 in 2009. ...............

.................. Suicide is predominantly a male cause of death with 76.6 per cent of all suicide deaths in 2009. ................

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/BN/2011-2012/Suicide

As usual lies are told and all the sympathy goes to women, who ALREADY have all the benefits.

Craven men here pander to women as soon as they can

What benefits do women have that men do not?

And were those benefits fought for or handed to us?

Have you been fighting for any benefits? Which ones?

And how is accepting the data on suicide prejudicial? You sound hypersensitive.

Women are typically prioritised in recruitment in the army and police force, although I don’t think this is a bad thing.

[Sprintcyclist]

..................... Suicide rates for males peaked in 1997 at 23.6 per 100,000 but have steadily decreased since then and stood at 14.9 per 100,000 in 2009.
Female rates reached a high of 6.2 per 100 000 in 1997. Rates declined after that and was 4.5 per 100 000 in 2009. ...............

.................. Suicide is predominantly a male cause of death with 76.6 per cent of all suicide deaths in 2009. ................

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/BN/2011-2012/Suicide

As usual lies are told and all the sympathy goes to women, who ALREADY have all the benefits.

Craven men here pander to women as soon as they can

What benefits do women have that men do not?

And were those benefits fought for or handed to us?

Have you been fighting for any benefits? Which ones?

And how is accepting the data on suicide prejudicial? You sound hypersensitive.

Why do you ask so many questions ?

Why can't you accept basic statistics ?

Why do you so deny the oppressiveness men live under ?

[johnsmith]

ohh, poor diddums is upset that someone cares about women attempting suicide

how dare they, sympathy should be held exclusively for the men!




god be with you Sprint.

[mothra]

I thought it would be quite seafe discussing the reasons for the rise in suicide amonsgt young women in a thread about it.

Seems it's really just outrageous of the thread to exist. And my shameful part in it, asking questions and stuff, has been exposed.

White men, as we know, are the true victims.

[DonDeeHippy]

the wike quotes stats from 9 years ago, r suicide rates still dropping ?
(I know google is my friend, but im not ina searching mood... its all rainey and gloomy here )

[mothra]

the wike quotes stats from 9 years ago, r suicide rates still dropping ?
(I know google is my friend, but im not ina searching mood... its all rainey and gloomy here )

On the rise.

https://www.lifeline.org.au/about-lifeline/lifeline-information/statistics-on-suicide-in-australia

[Sprintcyclist]

I thought it would be quite seafe discussing the reasons for the rise in suicide amonsgt young women in a thread about it.

Seems it's really just outrageous of the thread to exist. And my shameful part in it, asking questions and stuff, has been exposed.

White men, as we know, are the true victims.

yes.

Men suicide at a rate of 300 - 400% more than women. We are the victims

[DonDeeHippy]

so do u think the attempts of suicide r increasing in women or for a better word r they getting better at it ?
Either way i dont think see men or women as a group being the worse victims, just australians as a whole.

[mothra]

I thought it would be quite seafe discussing the reasons for the rise in suicide amonsgt young women in a thread about it.

Seems it's really just outrageous of the thread to exist. And my shameful part in it, asking questions and stuff, has been exposed.

White men, as we know, are the true victims.

yes.

Men suicide at a rate of 300 - 400% more than women. We are the victims

[mothra]

so do u think the attempts of suicide r increasing in women or for a better word r they getting better at it ?
Either way i dont think see men or women as a group being the worse victims, just australians as a whole.

That's the 64 million dollar question.

And no, we should not make it a fucking competition. Preposterous.

[johnsmith]

I thought it would be quite seafe discussing the reasons for the rise in suicide amonsgt young women in a thread about it.

Seems it's really just outrageous of the thread to exist. And my shameful part in it, asking questions and stuff, has been exposed.

White men, as we know, are the true victims.

yes.

Men suicide at a rate of 300 - 400% more than women. We are the victims

and because of that we shouldn't be concerned about the rise in suicides in women? I don't know how you manage to walk and breath at the same time


grow up, stop making it a 'them v's us', we can discuss each issue without degrading the other.