Biden threatened with communion ban over position on abortion

DreamRyderX

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60% Of Americans Support Early Term Abortion, Poll Finds —
But Not Later In The Pregnancy

Source: Forbes
A majority of Americans broadly believe abortion should be legal and more than 60% believe people should be able to obtain abortions during the first trimester of their pregnancy, a new Associated Press/NORC poll finds—but support for abortion being legal drops significantly as the pregnancy continues, an issue that will soon be taken up by the U.S. Supreme Court........

The poll, conducted June 10-14 among 1,125 U.S. adults, found 57% of respondents believe abortion should be legal overall in all or most cases—with 23% saying it should be legal in all cases and 33% saying only in most cases—including 76% of Democrats and 36% of Republicans.

That percentage was even higher when asked whether abortion should be legal during the first trimester specifically, with 61% saying it should be legal in all or most cases.

Only 34% believe abortion should be legal in all or most cases in the second trimester, however, and 19% say it should be legal during the third, including 52% and 28% of Democrats, respectively, and 18% and 8% of Republicans.

A further 30% believe that abortion should be illegal in some but not all cases in the second trimester, and 26% believe it should be illegal but with exceptions in the third trimester.

A separate Reuters poll conducted June 11-17 recorded slightly higher levels of support, with 47% of respondents saying pre-viability abortions should be legal, which would be up until about 24 to 28 weeks into the pregnancy, or the end of the second trimester.

Under current federal rules set by the Supreme Court in Roe v. Wade, abortion is legal up until the point where the fetus is considered to be viable.
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▶Under current federal rules set by the Supreme Court in Roe v. Wade, abortion is legal up until the point where the fetus is considered to be viable, not until birth.

It seems that the American People are redefining their positions on the indiscriminate killing of children in the womb, & it's becoming more & more likely the United States Supreme Court may be called upon to revisit the original Roe v. Wade decision of 50 years ago, where the U.S. Supreme Court on January 22, 1973, ruled (7–2) that unduly restrictive state regulation of abortion is unconstitutional......which leaves the door open for reasonable restriction........
 
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HBS Guy

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Yeah, how DARE women decide on their own bodies, their own reproductive health, eh? Fuck off! You can have safe, medically supervised abortion or you can have backyard abortionists and their huge death toll of mothers and fetuses. You can NOT ban abortion!

Why not give each new fetus its own gun, dickhead?
 

johnsmith

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Under current federal rules set by the Supreme Court in Roe v. Wade, abortion is legal up until the point where the fetus is considered to be viable, not until birth.

I haven't heard many people argue otherwise. No one I know who is pro abortion has ever said that abortion should be an option up until the baby is born
 

DreamRyderX

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I haven't heard many people argue otherwise. No one I know who is pro abortion has ever said that abortion should be an option up until the baby is born
According to the "Reproductive Health Act" when a woman is allowed to abort is up to her doctor & her......it's possible, because of this legislation, that they can come to a conclusion to abort at any time.

The RHA legalized all abortions up to 24 weeks of gestation. Beyond 24 weeks gestation, abortion was deemed legal if the woman's health or life are at risk or if the fetus is not viable.[4] Per the norm to not define medical terms in the law, the terms "health", "at risk", and "viable" were not defined in the RHA. It was determined that it is up to the discretion of a woman's medical provider and that woman to determine if her health is at risk, and it is up to medical providers to determine if a fetus is viable based on specific medical criteria.[21]
 

DreamRyderX

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Yeah, how DARE women decide on their own bodies, their own reproductive health, eh? Fuck off! You can have safe, medically supervised abortion or you can have backyard abortionists and their huge death toll of mothers and fetuses. You can NOT ban abortion!
You're absolutely correct!!!!

I can't, but the US Supreme Court can, but probably won't ban it entirely.......they will probably make the legal decision a State's Issue, & if they do Roe v. Wade will no longer protect a woman's Right to an abortion......Individual States would have to decide that.....to permit it or not.....what, if any, restrictions would apply....etc....etc
 

johnsmith

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Beyond 24 weeks gestation, abortion was deemed legal if the woman's health or life are at risk or if the fetus is not viable.

I don't have a problem with that. Only a fool would demand they contiue with the pregnancy despite it placing the mothers life at risk.

It's still not someone calling for abortions up to full term
 

DreamRyderX

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In other words, states can ban safe, medically supervised abortions.
Yes, SCOTUS can rule that it's a State's issue, putting it back in the hands of each individual State, as it was prior to 1973......States would then make all the rules to proceed with & possible restrictions regarding abortions in their State. The Tenth Amendment covers one possible avenue for such a ruling by the Court.

Amendment X (1791)

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
Ten Legal Reasons to Reject Roe


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hatty

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Yeah, how DARE women decide on their own bodies, their own reproductive health, eh? Fuck off! You can have safe, medically supervised abortion or you can have backyard abortionists and their huge death toll of mothers and fetuses. You can NOT ban abortion!

Why not give each new fetus its own gun, dickhead?

Fucking THIS! x 1000!!

astounding the hypocrisy

loves cells...... loves bullets..... its gods plan ......lol

god must be a real cunt, and the people who speak for him (when not kiddy fiddling, stroking their weapons...... or mansplaining to a woman how to treat her own body) are small minded, narcissistic, selfish and fucking stupid.
 
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HBS Guy

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Rich women will fly to England (or even Roman Catholic Irelans for fucks sake!) or Canada to have a safe abortion. Poor women will be saddled with unwanted kids and a destroyed life or a visit to the local backyard abortionist who do it not just for the money but because they fucking hate women!

Organised religion, source of a lot of the evils we suffer. The NRA is little more than an organised religion of death.
 

hatty

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It is not a baby until it is born.
Oh come on monk i'm sure i can find the cutest of cute pictures of six month olds to call women (who i have never met) murderers...... /sarcasm

just as easy as kittens....... where are all the pitchforks for actual animal cruelty?

Hey DRX tell us more about johnny exotic....... one of your ilk yeah?
 

HBS Guy

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Catholic Bishops arguing the “legality” of Roe v Wade, what crap.

They want to maintain their fast-disappearing hold on people!
 

DreamRyderX

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Rich women will fly to England (or even Roman Catholic Irelans for fucks sake!) or Canada to have a safe abortion. Poor women will be saddled with unwanted kids and a destroyed life or a visit to the local backyard abortionist who do it not just for the money but because they fucking hate women!
Why? You seem to be over reacting to the extreme.......

If after SCOTUS hears the arguments from both sides of this issue (many of which in my previous post would suffice), then revisits the 1973 decision & decides that the 1973 decision was unsound, they would then most probably just simply return the decision making to the 50 States, as it was prior to 1973........

When all the dust settles, unfortunately for the unborn, I am very sure enough Leftist Anti-Life 'Blue' States will write their own laws favoring the death of the unborn, so those women that hate the baby growing within their wombs will simply have to choose (pro-choice) which State available is most favorable to their particular anti-life needs, & make reservations there........
 
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HBS Guy

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Because LOTS of third world US states have ALREADY banned abortion—safe, medically supervised abortion that is. Rich women flying to civilised countries, poor women resorting to backyard abortionists can get an abortion.

My advise to any US woman living in a third world state (say, Texarse) is to obtain a supply of morning after pills. Fuck fucking stinking peanut politicians listening to/bribed by fucking scumbag church functionary to shut down not only safe abortion clinics but also other services for womens’ sexual health—Pap smears etc.

Cowardly CUNTS!

Not every baby is wanted. You would MAKE victims of rape, incest etc give birth to a fetus created AGAINST the woman’s will? Because some fucking Catlick bishops/priests etc want EVERY FUCKING embryo to be a new catholic? Or a pregnancy that endangers the woman’s health? Because fucking Catholic bishops say that should be so?

In some places women are JAILED if they have a miscarriage! Fuck you, you enable that foul shit!
 

DreamRyderX

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Because LOTS of third world US states have ALREADY banned abortion—safe, medically supervised abortion that is. Rich women flying to civilised countries, poor women resorting to backyard abortionists can get an abortion.

My advise to any US woman living in a third world state (say, Texarse) is to obtain a supply of morning after pills. Fuck fucking stinking peanut politicians listening to/bribed by fucking scumbag church functionary to shut down not only safe abortion clinics but also other services for womens’ sexual health—Pap smears etc.

Cowardly CUNTS!

Not every baby is wanted. You would MAKE victims of rape, incest etc give birth to a fetus created AGAINST the woman’s will? Because some fucking Catlick bishops/priests etc want EVERY FUCKING embryo to be a new catholic? Or a pregnancy that endangers the woman’s health? Because fucking Catholic bishops say that should be so?

In some places women are JAILED if they have a miscarriage! Fuck you, you enable that foul shit!
Well, if it's the will of the People in any particular State, then those not liking it's 'restrictive' laws, are always free to permanently move or travel to more 'sympathetic' jurisdictions or their CHOICE.

If that's not good enough, then they have the right to petition their friends, to join them in the next referendum where they can change the laws more to their liking....or even amend the US Constitution, & actually make their lust for death a valid part of the Law of the Land.
 

johnsmith

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Well, if it's the will of the People in any particular State, then those not liking it's 'restrictive' laws, are always free to permanently move or travel to more 'sympathetic' jurisdictions or their CHOICE.

what a load of crap. people should not have to move away from their lives and family just because others want to tell them what to do with their bodies.
 

HBS Guy

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Rich women can move permanently or just long enough to have a safe, medically supervised abortion. Poor women have to visit a backyard abortionist at grave danger to their health or have an unwanted child that ruins their life.
 
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