Ukraine

Shellandshilo1956

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Yippee!! More weapons to create more body bags. More grieving mothers and loved ones at more funerals. More civilian/military casualties, and destruction of the environment. More famine, hunger, and diseases. And, more meddling countries involving themselves in a proxy war with Russia. Of course, it is only at the expense of Ukrainian and Russian lives. NOT THEIRS! Yippee!!

I'm sure all the war-profiteers, and John Wayne wannabes, are just licking their chops with this new opportunity to sell their weapons of mass destruction. Yippee! Nuke the bastards!
 

HBS Guy

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US intelligence helped Ukraine destroy the Moskva missile cruiser. Two smaller russian patrol boats were sunk this week, not sure if US intelligence helped there.
 

SethBullock

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US intelligence helped Ukraine destroy the Moskva missile cruiser. Two smaller russian patrol boats were sunk this week, not sure if US intelligence helped there.
I thought I heard the U.S. denied it, but they probably did provide the intel.
 

HBS Guy

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That makes two big boats (missile cruiser and amphibious assault ship) and three smaller ones—the two patrol boats and the frigate.

If Ukraine can destroy the bridge linking russia to Crimea and regain Kherson then the russian forces in Crimea can be isolated.
 
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Cacatuoidea

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Ummmm. There must be a good reason Putin (or any previous regime) has not ordered a naval ship-yard at Novorossiysk in Krasnodar Krai. Given the fact that the Black Sea is essentially controlled by Turkey, why such a lapse in strategic thinking?
 

HBS Guy

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russian defence organisation is rife with corruption—strategy smattegy.

Ukraine will conserve its forces, train on the new equipment that is being sent then mount a major counteroffensive, maybe in July.

The Kerch bridge connecting russia with Crimea will soon be targeted. Sevastopol may not be a safe port for the russian Black Sea Fleet or, rather, what is left of that fleet.
 

HBS Guy

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The russian navy is as incredibly inefficient as the russian army—could be mere negligence sank the latest ship!
 

johnsmith

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The world was exposed again last week to examples of the kind of brutal behaviour by Russian soldiers that the Ukrainian people have experienced since February 24.

First, a video that appeared to show Russian soldiers gagging and then castrating a Ukrainian prisoner of war was circulated widely. Subsequently, dozens of Ukrainian prisoners of war were killed in their beds when the Russian army is alleged to have used a thermobaric weapon.

On a human level, these are sickening acts. No soldier deserves such treatment.

A small proportion of people may dismiss these acts of cruelty as "just war". But these acts contravene established laws of war that protect soldiers and prisoners of war.

There are many good humanitarian and legal reasons why these protocols, endorsed in 1949 Geneva Conventions, were developed. The convention provides a set of procedures, including the housing, communication and care of prisoners. Russia is a signatory to this convention.

If confirmed as deliberate acts by the Russian Army these incidents suggest reforms undertaken by the Russian Army during the past decade have failed to produce a modern, effective and ethical military institution. Instead the reforms overseen by Minister Sergei Shoigu and General Valery Gerasimov reveal an organisation that is professionally corrupt and morally bankrupt.

All the reforms have achieved is to provide relatively new equipment to an institution stuck in ancient mindsets about warfare.

It's disturbing that in this day and age, soldiers are still castrating enemy prisoners. I hope Putin faces the international court for war crimes
 

Linus

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Nothing has been authenticated. It's war. Both sides are probably committing atrocities. I typed in the search " Atrocities committed by the Ukraine army." Got quite a few hits.

Are they geniune? I don't have the foggiest. Would there be a lot of propaganda coming out from either side? You bet.

There's no excuse for atrocities happening from whatever direction it's coming.
 

Linus

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Someone is braking ranks with the Western narrative. From Sky News no less.



Moral of the story. We're mushrooms- kept in the dark and fed bullshit.
 
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HBS Guy

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Create a famine in which millions die in Ukraine

Replace them with russians

Argue that the russian bits should be independent (=amalgamated into Russia)

Nice trick.
 
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