Why has Australian politics sunk so low that boorish dolts like ScoMo, Abbott and their ilk can become PM?

Squire

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I remember one time when Australia had intellectuals as PMs.

The Whitlam government of 1972-1975 had one of the most educated and intellectual assembly of politicians in Whitlam's cabinet.

I thought Abbott was the bottom of the barrel until ScoMo emerged. Joyce is even lower.

The Liberal barrel must have a false bottom.
 

chris155au

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I remember one time when Australia had intellectuals as PMs.

The Whitlam government of 1972-1975 had one of the most educated and intellectual assembly of politicians in Whitlam's cabinet.

I thought Abbott was the bottom of the barrel until ScoMo emerged. Joyce is even lower.

The Liberal barrel must have a false bottom.
Oh and I suppose you think that Shorten and Albanese would make better PM's! šŸ¤£
 

johnsmith

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But we DON'T have to wait and see how they perform as PM before we decide if they'd be WORSE?
Of course you do. Howard was terrible both as treasurer to Frazer and as opposition leader. Once he become PM many claim he was our best PM. If he'd never been elected PM because he sucked beforehand, you would never have known how good he was (in some peoples minds anyway)
 

chris155au

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Of course you do. Howard was terrible both as treasurer to Frazer and as opposition leader. Once he become PM many claim he was our best PM. If he'd never been elected PM because he sucked beforehand, you would never have known how good he was (in some peoples minds anyway)
My point is, how can you say that Shorten and Albanese would be worse if they've never been PM?
 

johnsmith

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Typo. I meant: my point is, how can you say that Shorten and Albanese would be NO worse if they've never been PM?
because they couldn't possibly be worse for the country. Australia has never been so divided. We went from having the best performing economy under gillard / rudd and being world leaders in regards to renewables, to 12th as far as economy is going and we're so far behind the pack with renewables that we'll struggle to play catch up
 
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johnsmith

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Divided in what way?
it's seemingly more and more divided in every way. We used to, despite political differences, always come together for the big stuff, especially for things we're advised by the doctors and scientists ... lately it's less coming together regardless of expert advice and more political differences just for the sake of it.

By which metric?
global ranking on best performing economies

Carbon tax?
that was the main one, and because of that we had record investment in renewables in the pipeline ... Once Abbott won office investment it waned because the govt. couldn't give a firm direction in which we would head ... even big business started calling for them to take clear action which they could then develop their corporate policies and plan for future capital spending

As opposed to what ranking under Labor?
first
 

chris155au

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it's seemingly more and more divided in every way. We used to, despite political differences, always come together for the big stuff, especially for things we're advised by the doctors and scientists ... lately it's less coming together regardless of expert advice and more political differences just for the sake of it.
So this is specific to climate change?

that was the main one, and because of that we had record investment in renewables in the pipeline
Didn't Labor promise to NEVER RETURN to a carbon tax?

Australia's economy was number ONE in the world at one point?
 

Squire

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Australia's economy has been propped up for years by high immigration, Chinese purchases of resources, apartments, and businesses.

Australian business cannot even compete with imported foreign bricks and other like goods with high shipping costs.

A few hundred thousand Australians are productive in mining and agriculture. The building industry feeds on immigrants until that runs out. The rest of Australians are just consumers, economic ballast.

Eventually, politicians will be imported to fill the dearth of political intellect.

Renewable energy will eventually be dominated by Australians with 'clever country' brand fart capture devices, pulling rickshaws.
 
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